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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Further to Jocelyn's response below,
is there any documentation or a blog that explains how BPM actually supplants
workflow for simple processess such as PO approval, as indicated? I've
checked the ES simple sample applications and the purchase requisition
approval example seems to gloss over the issue, or at least appears to
be using an underlying workflow template for steps such as agent assignment.
Or is this the whole thrust of the BPM/workflow relationship? A
chap called Kenichi has a 1hour podcast on SDN but the screens are unreadable.
Anything to get me started would be helpful.</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"> Karl <br>
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Hi Mike, </font></tt><font size=2 face="Courier New"><br>
Just adding the SAP employee perspective... and by the way I'm Product
Lead for NW BPM in ANZ Field Services this year.<br>
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I agree currently NW BPM and Workflow should be considered as complementary.
Mainly due to existing business content and solution maturity issues.
Also yes Workflow will not be going away anytime soon. <br>
It is however possible to use NW BPM instead of Workflow for a new site
that does not use workflow at all for scenarios that we would previously
have done in workflow (e.g. purchase order approval) - provided current
limitations/restrictions are understood and this is happening at some sites.
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A lot of the concepts and issues around process handling are the same.<br>
We currently have a BPM forum in SDN, so the question for this forum is:
as BPM usage grows do you want to start covering that area as well or just
stick with traditional workflow?<br>
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I can't give any official details on future releases yet but I can confirm
generally that we are expecting some better integration options between
workflow and NW BPM when we get to 7.3 on both the backend and NW BPM platforms
most likely around business event management and calling of ABAP-based
applications. We also expect some sort of import for 7.3 although
I don't expect we will be translating from workflow to BPM or vice versa
- more likely import of a model from business process modelling applications.
I don't expect workflow to be further developed - although I agree
BPMN is easier to work with and enables better cross communication between
business and IT. <br>
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If anyone has any specific questions I'm happy to provide what information
I can. There are trial versions available on SDN if you want to have
a play with NW BPM, or try out the pre-built Simple Sample Applications
on the ESWorkplace site. <br>
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Regards,<br>
Jocelyn <br>
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