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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>See previous discussions from
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'>Change Request Management (</span><span class=search-highlight1><b><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Charm</span></b></span><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'>) functionality.</span><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Susan R. Keohan</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>SAP Workflow
Specialist</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Enterprise
Applications</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Information
Services Department</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>MIT Lincoln
Laboratory</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>244 Wood Street,
LI-200</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Lexington, MA.
02420</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>781-981-3561</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>keohan@LL.MIT.EDU</span><span
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Nat
4 Govender<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 04, 2010 9:01 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> SAP Workflow Users' Group<br>
<b>Cc:</b> SAP Workflow Users' Group; sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: workflow maintenance and enhancements<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Hi Jocelyn,<br>
<br>
Sorry to ask a silly question but what is the "<tt><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'>CHARM transport process</span></tt>" ?<br>
<b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;color:darkslateblue'><br>
Regards</span></b><span style='font-size:13.5pt'><br>
Nat Govender<br>
Toyota South Africa<br>
IT - SAP Workflow Specialist<br>
Internal Ext. : 32645<br>
Direct Line : +27 031 910 2645<br>
Fax : 086 607 0414<br>
E-mail : </span><a href="mailto:ngovender4@toyota.co.za"><span
style='font-size:13.5pt'>ngovender4@toyota.co.za</span></a><span
style='font-size:13.5pt'><br>
<span style='color:fuchsia'><br>
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<span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Sent by: sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu</span> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-left:2.0in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>2010/05/04 01:38
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<tt><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Hi Sue,</span></tt><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><br>
<tt>For something like this we would usually use parallel environments and use
the CHARM transport process to sort it out.</tt><br>
<tt>Essentially to control/automate the synchronization process as much as
possible.</tt><br>
<tt>This is one of those... "go talk to the basis guys" answers -
sorry.</tt><br>
<tt>Regards,</tt><br>
<tt>Jocelyn</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>________________________________</tt><br>
<tt>From: sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu [sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu] On Behalf Of
Keohan, Susan - 1140 - MITLL [keohan@ll.mit.edu]</tt><br>
<tt>Sent: Saturday, 1 May 2010 12:56 AM</tt><br>
<tt>To: SAP Workflow Users' Group</tt><br>
<tt>Subject: RE: workflow maintenance and enhancements</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>Hi Sue, Gayathri,</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>I do understand this dilemma – we go thru it every time we upgrade or apply
major support packs. We get a ‘prime’ Dev environment in which we do
production support, and then we get the upgrade environment in which we do
enhancements. It’s a beast.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>I was not taking that – the ‘upgrade factor’ – into consideration.
Call it selective amnesia.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>As far as I know copying the WFs and trying to keep both versions in sync
is the only way to do this. Of course, in my own perfect little world
(imaginary) we would not have to do this kind of thing :)</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>Thanks for bringing me back to reality on a Friday,</tt><br>
<tt>Sue</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>----</tt><br>
<tt>Susan R. Keohan</tt><br>
<tt>SAP Workflow Specialist</tt><br>
<tt>Enterprise Applications</tt><br>
<tt>Information Services Department</tt><br>
<tt>MIT Lincoln Laboratory</tt><br>
<tt>244 Wood Street, LI-200</tt><br>
<tt>Lexington, MA. 02420</tt><br>
<tt>781-981-3561</tt><br>
<tt>keohan@LL.MIT.EDU</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>From: sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu [<a href="mailto:sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu">mailto:sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu</a>]
On Behalf Of Sue Doughty</tt><br>
<tt>Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 10:47 AM</tt><br>
<tt>To: 'SAP Workflow Users' Group'</tt><br>
<tt>Subject: RE: workflow maintenance and enhancements</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>Hi Sue,</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>I can understand Gayathri’s issue.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>I’m currently working on a six month project that involves changes to the
system done by another group, plus workflow changes to an existing workflow.
While this six month project is going on we need to have a path to
production to be able to send fixes (if they occur) for the existing workflow
while we are in development on the project.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>The only way I knew to do that was to make a copy of the existing workflow
in which I am making the project changes. If any fixes need to be done
before the project goes to PRD, I’ll have to make changes in both workflows to
keep everything in sync. It is challenging.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>There is no other way to do that, is there?</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>Regards,</tt><br>
<tt>Sue</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>________________________________</tt><br>
<tt>From: sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu [<a href="mailto:sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu">mailto:sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu</a>]
On Behalf Of Keohan, Susan - 1140 - MITLL</tt><br>
<tt>Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 10:18 AM</tt><br>
<tt>To: SAP Workflow Users' Group</tt><br>
<tt>Subject: RE: workflow maintenance and enhancements</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>Hi Gayathri,</tt><br>
<tt>I would not try to simultaneously fix productive workflows and also do
enhancements – unless you are planning on all of these corrections/enhancements
going to the same place at the same time. Personally, I would fix the
issue with production, transport up, and then generate a new version of the
workflow in your Dev environment and begin the enhancements.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>Having said that, you could, of course, copy the productive workflow to
another workflow template, allowing you to do the fixes in the original
template, and the enhancements in the copied template. I would hate to
have to coordinate that development effort though.</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>Just my 2p,</tt><br>
<tt>Sue</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>----</tt><br>
<tt>Susan R. Keohan</tt><br>
<tt>SAP Workflow Specialist</tt><br>
<tt>Enterprise Applications</tt><br>
<tt>Information Services Department</tt><br>
<tt>MIT Lincoln Laboratory</tt><br>
<tt>244 Wood Street, LI-200</tt><br>
<tt>Lexington, MA. 02420</tt><br>
<tt>781-981-3561</tt><br>
<tt>keohan@LL.MIT.EDU</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>From: sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu [<a href="mailto:sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu">mailto:sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu</a>]
On Behalf Of Gayathri Shivakumar</tt><br>
<tt>Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 8:25 AM</tt><br>
<tt>To: sap-wug@mit.edu</tt><br>
<tt>Subject: workflow maintenance and enhancements</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>HI experts,</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>What is the best way to handle simultaneously fixes to a production
workflow and also work on enhancements to the same workflow ?</tt><br>
<br>
<tt>Regards,</tt><br>
<tt>Gayathri</tt><br>
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