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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Update: This issue is definitely related
to the persistence of the workflow container.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>When I switch the container from XML
persistence to Compatibility Mode, the workflow is able to start normally when
a shopping cart is created via SRM Gui.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>ECC issues later in the flow have all been
resolved (thank you, Master Data) and the flow completes as expected.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><br>
When I switch the container back to XML persistence, and create a shopping cart
from the SRM Gui - that is when the nasty ‘Container (runtime object)
cannot be created’ message is generated.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>So, my understanding of using XML
persistence is that it is supposed to use less table space and run faster. The
standard SAP-Delivered Workflow for SC Release (WS14000044) uses ‘Compatibility
Mode’ in its’ container profile. And, I know in older ECC
releases – it was often possible to raise an event and start a workflow
before the object was created in theDB – typically a FIPP doc. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>In this scenario – I am wondering if
the same thing isn’t happening in our SRM system – the workflow is
started, the object can’t be instantiated at the time, the workflow
fails.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Thoughts? I know there are lots of ‘container
gurus’ out there!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>----</span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Susan R. Keohan</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>SAP Workflow Specialist</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on"><font size=2
color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Enterprise</span></font></st1:place></st1:City><font
size=2 color=black><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'> Applications</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Information Services Department</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>MIT <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Lincoln</st1:place></st1:City>
Laboratory</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><st1:Street w:st="on"><st1:address w:st="on"><font size=2
color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>244
Wood Street</span></font></st1:address></st1:Street><font size=2 color=black><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>, LI-200</span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on"><font size=2
color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Lexington</span></font></st1:City><font
size=2 color=black><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>, <st1:State
w:st="on">MA</st1:State></span></font></st1:place><font size=2 color=black><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>. 02420</span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>781-981-3561</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>keohan@LL.MIT.EDU</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Keohan, Susan - 1140 - MITLL<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, October 06, 2009
11:24 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> SAP Workflow Users' Group<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: SRM 5/SupportPack18 -
Runtime object cannot be created, etc</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Sorry – Fat Fingers on Keyboard sent
this out before I was really finished.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>If I manually start the workflow –
it will abend later on when reaching across to ECC system – so
that’s to be investigated later.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>If I change the container persistence to
‘Compatibility Mode’ – the workflow can start, and then fails
on reaching across to ECC.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>I have deleted and re-created the binding
from event to workflow – no joy.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>I have double-clicked and drilled into each
container object to get to the DDIC definitions – no joy.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>I’ve done my due diligence in
SAP-WUG, SDN, and <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">OSS</st1:City></st1:place>
searches for the initial error – which is </span></font><font size=2><span
style='font-size:11.0pt'>SWF_CNT_001004 – Container (runtime object)
cannot be created.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Any tips would be greatly appreciated!<br>
Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Sue<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>----</span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Susan R. Keohan</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>SAP Workflow Specialist</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on"><font size=2
color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Enterprise</span></font></st1:City></st1:place><font
size=2 color=black><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'> Applications</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Information Services Department</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>MIT <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Lincoln</st1:City></st1:place>
Laboratory</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><st1:Street w:st="on"><st1:address w:st="on"><font size=2
color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>244
Wood Street</span></font></st1:address></st1:Street><font size=2 color=black><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>, LI-200</span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on"><font size=2
color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Lexington</span></font></st1:City><font
size=2 color=black><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>, <st1:State
w:st="on">MA</st1:State></span></font></st1:place><font size=2 color=black><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>. 02420</span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>781-981-3561</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>keohan@LL.MIT.EDU</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Keohan, Susan - 1140 - MITLL<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, October 06, 2009
10:48 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> SAP Workflow Users' Group<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> SRM 5/SupportPack18 -
Runtime object cannot be created, etc</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
11.0pt'>All,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
11.0pt'><br>
We are in Sandbox, a copy of our production system (SRM 5, support pack
SAPKA70008) – and sandbox has had support packs up to SAPKA70018 applied.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
11.0pt'>Standard workflow customizing, block corrections, etc. have all been
carried out.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
11.0pt'>We have 5 main workflows in this system (SC, <st1:place w:st="on">PO</st1:place>,
PO-CV, Bid, Contract). So far we are only testing SC and <st1:place
w:st="on">PO</st1:place>. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
11.0pt'>The creation of new SC workflows error out at the very
start with the following errors:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
11.0pt'><img width=469 height=191 id="_x0000_i1025"
src="cid:image001.jpg@01CA4737.5CC44360"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
11.0pt'>These are errors SWF_CNT_001004 and WL826 respectively.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
11.0pt'><br>
There is <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>no data</span></b> in the WF
container. Surprisingly, I changed the container persistence from XML to
compatibility mode, and the workflow was able to start – although later
errored at another step. I have deleted and re-created the binding from
the event BUS2121 SAVED to the workflow<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
11.0pt'>Even more surprisingly – the PO Workflow can start and complete
with no issues. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<div style='border:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 1.0pt 0in'>
<p class=MsoNormal><st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on"><font size=2
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>OSS</span></font></st1:City></st1:place><font
size=2><span style='font-size:11.0pt'> makes no reference to SWF_CNT_001004
– but note 939489 seems relevant although we are not concerned with
previously started workflows *<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>yet</span></b>*
– so I have manually checked each WF Container object in the SC
workflows. All the DDIC objects exist and are activated.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'>Susan R. Keohan</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'>SAP Workflow Specialist</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on"><font size=2
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Enterprise</span></font></st1:City></st1:place><font
size=2><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> Applications</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'>Information Services Department</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'>MIT <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Lincoln</st1:City></st1:place>
Laboratory</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><st1:Street w:st="on"><st1:address w:st="on"><font size=2
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>244 Wood Street</span></font></st1:address></st1:Street><font
size=2><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>, LI-200</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on"><font size=2
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Lexington</span></font></st1:City><font
size=2><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>, <st1:State w:st="on">MA</st1:State></span></font></st1:place><font
size=2><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>. 02420</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'>781-981-3561</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'>keohan@LL.MIT.EDU</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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