<div>Hello Rick,</div>
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<div>As you quoted in the Help:</div>
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<div>"A dialog work item appears in the Business Workplaces of its recipients when the requested start is reached"</div>
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<div>That isn't true; it should read that it appears in the Inbox. Isn't that what they call a "documentation bug"?</div>
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<div>I'd never used Requested Start in this way before so I didn't even know it went to the Resubmissions folder.</div>
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<div>regards</div>
<div>Rick Bakker</div>
<div>Hanabi Technology <br><br> </div>
<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 4/27/09, <b class="gmail_sendername">Sample, Rick</b> <<a href="mailto:Rick.Sample@graybar.com">Rick.Sample@graybar.com</a>> wrote:</span>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"><span>Hi Rick,</span></font></div>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"><span>Thanks for checking. I never noticed this working in this way before. </span></font></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"><span>I always assumed <font color="#000000">"Earliest time at which the work item can be executed" </font><font color="#0000ff">meant just what it states.</font></span></font></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"><span>Task can not be executed until deadline is reached. Unless the Deadline is changed of course. </span></font></div>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"><span>Well, this explains some intermittent issues I had over the years. </span></font></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"><span>I think I need to take a field trip to my super users and see what other amazing tricks they know that I do not. LOL</span></font></div>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"><span>I wonder if SAP considers this to be a bug? I sure did not catch it. </span></font></div>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"><span>Thanks!</span></font></div><span class="q">
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<font face="Tahoma" size="2"><b>From:</b> <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu" target="_blank">sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu</a> [mailto:<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu" target="_blank">sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Rick Bakker<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 27, 2009 12:58 PM<br><b>To:</b> SAP Workflow Users' Group<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: EEC6 Requested Start & Resubmission<br></font><br> </div>
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<div>Rick,</div>
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<div>It works in the same way in 46C (ie you end Resubmission and it goes to the inbox) - I just tried it.</div>
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<div>regards</div>
<div>Rick Bakker</div>
<div>Hanabi Technology<br><br> </div>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">The language seems clear to me! Do not start the task until xx:xx:xx. Period! Do not put in Business Workplace until the requested start and not available.</font></span></div>
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<td><font face="Arial" color="#fefeee" size="5">requested start (BC-BMT-WFM) </font></td></tr></tbody></table>
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<p><font face="Arial" size="2">Earliest time at which the work item can be executed.</font></p>
<p><font face="Arial" size="2">A dialog work item appears in the Business Workplaces of its recipients when the requested start is reached if the work item is already available for processing.</font></p>
<p><font face="Arial" size="2">If the dialog work item is not created until after the requested start, it appears immediately in the Business Workplaces of its recipients.</font></p>
<p><font face="Arial" size="2">With background work items, execution starts when the requested start is reached at the earliest.</font></p></font></span></div>
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<font face="Tahoma" size="2"><b>From:</b> Sample, Rick <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 27, 2009 12:17 PM<br><b>To:</b> Sample, Rick; 'SAP Workflow Users' Group'<br><b>Subject:</b> EEC6 Requested Start & Resubmission<br>
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<div><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">Hi all,<br><br>Something has just brought to my attention and was never aware of the functionality!</font></div>
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<div><font color="#0000ff"><font face="Arial" size="2">We have tasks that have "Requested Start" deadlines. </font></font></div>
<div><font color="#0000ff"><font face="Arial" size="2">Task starts and goes into wait. </font></font></div>
<div><font color="#0000ff"><font face="Arial" size="2">But, users can just go into SBWP, in the Resubmission folder, end resubmission, and execute the tasks! This a bug? </font></font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">I do not want user executing task until the deadline! </font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">I DO NOT recall this working this way in 4.6c. </font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">Below is the help text from the task builder for "Requested Start" describing how it functionality and </font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">I see nothing in the help files that indicate it can be picked up from the Resubmission folder and </font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">executed BEFORE the start date. </font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">>How Does the Requested Start Work?<br>>If the requested start for a dialog work item is reached, the work item is placed in the Workflow Inboxes of the recipients.<br>
>If the requested start for a background is reached, the workflow system starts automatically with the execution of the work item.<br>>Whether the requested start has been reached is checked by the background job for missed deadline that is run periodically.<br>
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