<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Thanks Jocelyn,</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">we have managed to generate an attachment
- we are having issues with retrieving all the data from the form.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">At the moment the method returns the
attachment and we are able to send it via email. But when we open the form
from the email, not all the fields are available - we are trying to narrow
down the issue but it seems to happen for the fields that are 'drop down'.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Even when we send the email from 'within'
the method (i.e. not using selfitem.sendtaskdescription) not all the data
is being sent. Something wrong with the retrieving the data from the form.
</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Lots to learn, as usual! : )<br>
<br>
Cristiana<br>
_________________________________<br>
Cristiana d'Agosto<br>
IBM Global Business Services<br>
Mobile: +61 417 927 224<br>
cristiana.dagosto@au1.ibm.com</font>
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<br><font size=2 color=blue face="Arial">Cristiana, At the end of the day
a mail is a mail - I wouldn't get hung up over selfitem.sendtaskdescription.
</font>
<br><font size=2 color=blue face="Arial">You need to create a SAP Office
wrapper for your PDF attachment - so look at the SO*API* functions and
business object SOFM. </font>
<br><font size=2 color=blue face="Arial">Once you have worked out how to
connect the PDF to a SOFM instance you will be able to use it for your
mail step. </font>
<br><font size=2 color=blue face="Arial">SO_DOC_INSERT_WITH_ORIG_API1 might
be useful.</font>
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<br><font size=2 color=blue face="Arial">Regards,</font>
<br><font size=2 color=blue face="Arial">Jocelyn </font>
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<hr><font size=2 face="Tahoma"><b>From:</b> sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Cristiana D'Agosto<b><br>
Sent:</b> Wednesday, 14 January 2009 11:23 AM<b><br>
To:</b> SAP Workflow Users' Group<b><br>
Subject:</b> [LIKELY JUNK]RE: Workflow and PDF attachments</font><font size=3><br>
</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
Hi Jocelyn,</font><font size=3> <br>
</font><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
no quite there yet! </font><font size=3><br>
</font><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
There is a bit of information in the SDN about this subject - please find
a list of some of the stuff I used</font><font size=3> </font>
<p><a href="https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/scn/thread?messageID=6160963#6160963"><font size=2 color=blue face="Arial"><u>https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/scn/thread?messageID=6160963#6160963</u></font></a><font size=3>
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<p><a href="https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/scn/thread?messageID=6155106#6155106"><font size=2 color=blue face="Arial"><u>https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/scn/thread?messageID=6155106#6155106</u></font></a><font size=3>
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<p><a href="https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/scn/thread?messageID=4455619#4455619"><font size=2 color=blue face="Arial"><u>https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/scn/thread?messageID=4455619#4455619</u></font></a><font size=3>
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<p><a href="https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/scn/thread?messageID=4586358#4586358"><font size=2 color=blue face="Arial"><u>https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/scn/thread?messageID=4586358#4586358</u></font></a><font size=3>
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<p><a href="https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/go/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/c0c139d3-3eae-2910-01a1-d253f2587b0e"><font size=2 color=blue face="Arial"><u>https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/go/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/c0c139d3-3eae-2910-01a1-d253f2587b0e</u></font></a><font size=3>
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<p><a href="https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/scn/go/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/60ff6ad3-729b-2b10-6582-fedc82680a29"><font size=2 color=blue face="Arial"><u>https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/scn/go/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/60ff6ad3-729b-2b10-6582-fedc82680a29</u></font></a><font size=3>
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<p><font size=2 face="sans-serif">There is a pretty good explanation from
Jeff Gebo (a webniar on sending attachments) - we at the moment are trying
to 'tweak' the code a bit so the Workflow sends the email on a SELFITEM.SENDTASKDESCRIPTION
step - i.e. we want the code to simply return the attachment and then the
workflow will use the attachment in the email step. Jeff's sends
the email from his code. </font>
<p><font size=2 face="sans-serif">For one of the Forms we are using (a
Transfer Employee form), the attachment was 29KB - so not too bad at all.</font><font size=3>
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</font><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
Hope that helps,<br>
<br>
Cristiana<br>
_________________________________<br>
Cristiana d'Agosto<br>
IBM Global Business Services<br>
Mobile: +61 417 927 224<br>
cristiana.dagosto@au1.ibm.com</font><font size=3> <br>
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<td><font size=1 face="sans-serif">RE: [LIKELY JUNK]RE: [LIKELY JUNK]RE:
[LIKELY JUNK]Workflow and PDF attachments</font></table>
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</font><font size=2 color=blue face="Arial"><br>
Akshay, Whether you can take that approach depends upon the requirements
of your customer. However at this point it is clear this is no longer
a workflow question, but rather an Adobe question - i.e. how do store and
retrieve a pdf WITH it's digital signatures. So you should try raising
the question on the SAP Interactive Forms by Adobe forum on SDN. </font><font size=3><br>
</font><font size=2 color=blue face="Arial"><br>
Cristiana - My impression was your issue is very similar - so if you have
solved this or have found something useful on the SDN forums you might
want to discuss that with Akshay - preferably via the Adobe SDN forum.</font><font size=3>
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</font><font size=2 color=blue face="Arial"><br>
Regards,</font><font size=3> </font><font size=2 color=blue face="Arial"><br>
Jocelyn </font><font size=3><br>
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<hr><font size=2 face="Tahoma"><b>From:</b> sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>akshay.bhagwat@wipro.com<b><br>
Sent:</b> Wednesday, 14 January 2009 1:43 AM<b><br>
To:</b> sap-wug@mit.edu<b><br>
Subject:</b> [LIKELY JUNK]RE: [LIKELY JUNK]RE: [LIKELY JUNK]Workflow and
PDF attachments</font><font size=3><br>
</font><font size=2 color=blue face="Arial"><br>
Hi Jocelyn,</font><font size=3> <br>
<br>
</font><font size=2 color=blue face="Arial"><br>
The requirement was a form should be sent for approvals and this form will
have to be signed digitally at every approval.</font><font size=3> <br>
</font><font size=2 color=blue face="Arial"><br>
Now as you have suggested, if I have to retrieve the form filled in by
1st approver, I have a key number based on which I can retrieve the
stored pdfsource data. Only problem was that I was not able to populate
the form with the digital signature.</font><font size=3> <br>
</font><font size=2 color=blue face="Arial"><br>
So my actual doubt is related to point -4. Displaying the PDF form based
on pdfSource data- because only problem is if I have to display the previous
Digital signature as it is on the form.</font><font size=3> <br>
</font><font size=2 color=blue face="Arial"><br>
Do you mean to say that we can just go on storing the PDF source at every
approval , and during each approval just display the details of previous
approval i.e. when it was signed etc on the form and not the actual signature?</font><font size=3>
<br>
<br>
<br>
</font><font size=2 face="Arial"><br>
Regards</font><font size=3> </font><font size=2 face="Arial"><br>
Akshay Bhagwat</font><font size=3> </font><font size=2 face="Arial"><br>
</font><font size=3> </font><font size=1 color=#c0c0c0 face="Arial"><br>
Akshay Bhagwat, <i>Senior Specialist </i>| SAP Practice, Wipro Technologies
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<hr><font size=2 face="Tahoma"><b>From:</b> sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Dart, Jocelyn<b><br>
Sent:</b> Monday, January 12, 2009 9:19 PM<b><br>
To:</b> SAP Workflow Users' Group<b><br>
Subject:</b> RE: [LIKELY JUNK]RE: [LIKELY JUNK]Workflow and PDF attachments</font><font size=3><br>
</font><font size=2 color=blue face="Arial"><br>
Hi Akshay, <br>
Well if you are already storing your PDFSource data in a custom table then
surely you would just:</font><font size=3> </font><font size=2 color=blue face="Arial"><br>
1. Add a key to the custom table</font><font size=3> </font><font size=2 color=blue face="Arial"><br>
2. Send the key to workflow <br>
3. Have workflow call the ABAP WD program passing the key</font><font size=3>
</font><font size=2 color=blue face="Arial"><br>
4. Using the key look up the table and import the pdfsource in your ABAP
WD program and display it.</font><font size=3> </font><font size=2 color=blue face="Arial"><br>
5. When the user updates the form with the digital signature, reimport
it and update your custom table. <br>
6. You could use your ABAP WD program to read data from the form to pass
to the workflow container, as well as reading the PDF in full, before closing.</font><font size=3>
</font><font size=2 color=blue face="Arial"><br>
(After all workflow probably doesn't need all the details of the digital
signature - mostly it needs to know if it was signed at all.)</font><font size=3>
</font><font size=2 color=blue face="Arial"><br>
This would provide data for subsequent steps in workflow, rather than having
to create an attachment or try and get the workflow to parse the file in
background. </font><font size=3> </font><font size=2 color=blue face="Arial"><br>
Similarly if you were sending the form offline via email or uploading a
returned from via email you would need the key as well as the PDF. </font><font size=3><br>
</font><font size=2 color=blue face="Arial"><br>
The approach would be much the same regardless of what storage area you
use. </font><font size=3> <br>
</font><font size=2 color=blue face="Arial"><br>
The point is to get away from thinking of workflow as the carrier of the
document. Rather workflow handles the communication needed to complete
the process. It's the ABAP WD program that accesses the PDF document.
So all you need is for the workflow and the ABAP WD to agree on some
way of uniquely identifing a document. </font><font size=3><br>
</font><font size=2 color=blue face="Arial"><br>
Please look at the Adobe tutorials on SDN.</font><font size=3> <br>
</font><font size=2 color=blue face="Arial"><br>
Regards,</font><font size=3> </font><font size=2 color=blue face="Arial"><br>
Jocelyn </font><font size=3><br>
<br>
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<hr><font size=2 face="Tahoma"><b>From:</b> sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>akshay.bhagwat@wipro.com<b><br>
Sent:</b> Tuesday, 13 January 2009 12:57 PM<b><br>
To:</b> sap-wug@mit.edu<b><br>
Subject:</b> [LIKELY JUNK]RE: [LIKELY JUNK]Workflow and PDF attachments</font><font size=3><br>
</font><font size=2 color=blue face="Arial"><br>
Hi Jocelyn,</font><font size=3> <br>
</font><font size=2 color=blue face="Arial"><br>
Thanks for the inputs.</font><font size=3> </font><font size=2 color=blue face="Arial"><br>
But I am not able to visualize how can I use the retrieved data?</font><font size=3>
</font><font size=2 color=blue face="Arial"><br>
e.g. In my case As this is custom application, we had created a custom
table and stored the data from PDFsource of context in custom table as
Xstring. However, problem is how to use this data for displaying again
as PDF?</font><font size=3> </font><font size=2 color=blue face="Arial"><br>
Another issue is how to reproduce the digital signatures from this data?
Even though it's stored inside XSTRING ,,,</font><font size=3> </font><font size=2 color=blue face="Arial"><br>
So I thought of using the form getting manually saved on Front end when
use digitally signs it.</font><font size=3> </font><font size=2 color=blue face="Arial"><br>
Then create attachment of it - then use it for further purpose inside workflow.</font><font size=3>
<br>
</font><font size=2 color=blue face="Arial"><br>
Now the issue was how to create attachment in background step of workflow.</font><font size=3>
<br>
</font><font size=2 color=blue face="Arial"><br>
Please suggest.</font><font size=3> <br>
<br>
<br>
</font><font size=2 face="Arial"><br>
Regards</font><font size=3> </font><font size=2 face="Arial"><br>
Akshay Bhagwat</font><font size=3> </font><font size=2 face="Arial"><br>
</font><font size=3> </font><font size=1 color=#c0c0c0 face="Arial"><br>
Akshay Bhagwat, <i>Senior Specialist </i>| SAP Practice, Wipro Technologies
| O: +91-20-22933700 Ext 3608 | M: +91-9881471909 | Email:</font><font size=1 face="Arial">
</font><a href=mailto:akshay.bhagwat@wipro.com><font size=1 color=#808080 face="Arial"><u>akshay.bhagwat@wipro.com</u></font></a><font size=1 color=#808080 face="Arial">
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<hr><font size=2 face="Tahoma"><b>From:</b> sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Dart, Jocelyn<b><br>
Sent:</b> Monday, January 12, 2009 6:37 PM<b><br>
To:</b> SAP Workflow Users' Group<b><br>
Subject:</b> RE: [LIKELY JUNK]Workflow and PDF attachments</font><font size=3><br>
</font><font size=2 color=blue face="Arial"><br>
Hi Akshay, <br>
Ok well if that is the scenario you might want to approach the problem
in a different way. Rather than pass attachments around, which is
always a pain when you have to convert between different formats, why not
just pass a reference number ? i.e. assign some sort of id to the
form. Your actual binary data representing the current known
form would be stored somewhere in SAP. Some applications such as
SAP HCM Workforce Process Management have used Records Management (transaction
SCASE) to store the binary/XML data of the form and then assign a GUID
as the reference that is passed throughout the workflow. Then your
ABAP WD application uses the reference to read/update the pdf. It's
not particularly important where you store it from workflow's point of
view - so long as you can use your form id to find the form data. </font><font size=3>
<br>
</font><font size=2 color=blue face="Arial"><br>
Trying to use SOFM - which is really only intended for creating and displaying
attachments - will be very restrictive. Also passing around a large
attachment in the workflow is likely to have other implications - e.g.
sizing issues. </font><font size=3> <br>
</font><font size=2 color=blue face="Arial"><br>
You might also want to look at the many Adobe tutorials on SDN. There
are various approaches to handling incoming PDF forms. <br>
Regards,</font><font size=3> </font><font size=2 color=blue face="Arial"><br>
Jocelyn</font><font size=3> <br>
<br>
</font>
<hr><font size=2 face="Tahoma"><b>From:</b> sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>akshay.bhagwat@wipro.com<b><br>
Sent:</b> Saturday, 10 January 2009 12:55 PM<b><br>
To:</b> sap-wug@mit.edu<b><br>
Subject:</b> [LIKELY JUNK]Workflow and PDF attachments</font><font size=3><br>
</font><font size=2 face="Arial"><br>
Hi All,</font><font size=3> <br>
</font><font size=2 face="Arial"><br>
I know this topic is discussed a lot, still posting the questions as I
am not able to achieve the requirement.</font><font size=3> <br>
</font><font size=2 face="Arial"><br>
Just to elaborate the scenario, we are using Web dypnro for ABAP to host
Interactive form .</font><font size=3> </font><font size=2 face="Arial"><br>
This Form in turn triggers the workflow, as this form is to be approved
using workflow process. i.e. UWL will be used to launch the form when executing
the work items.</font><font size=3> <br>
</font><font size=2 face="Arial"><br>
As the form includes Digital signatures, we are not able to read the same
from contexts (e.g. using UWLs dynamic parameters such as WI_ID.) So we
have decided to use attachments i.e. send this form as an attachment inside
workflow, since saved PDF file has all the data intact.</font><font size=3>
<br>
</font><font size=2 face="Arial"><br>
Now the issue is: <br>
How this form in Webdynpro is to be saved as PDF file automatically and
then send as an attachment in workflow?</font><font size=3> <br>
</font><font size=2 face="Arial"><br>
1. I have tried using SAP Office function modules such as SO_OBJECT_UPLOAD
to create PDF files in SOFM object. However the problem is these FM s can
not be used from Webdynpro as Front end services are unavailable.</font><font size=3>
</font><font size=2 face="Arial"><br>
2. Same is the issue If I use background step for creating SOFM document
so that it can be used as an attachment.</font><font size=3> <br>
</font><font size=2 face="Arial"><br>
Can any body please suggest what approach can be taken so that from webdynpro
, attachment can be created and passed to workflow seamlessly?</font><font size=3>
<br>
</font><font size=2 face="Arial"><br>
Any inputs are appreciated.</font><font size=3> </font><font size=2 face="Arial"><br>
Thanks in advance.</font><font size=3> <br>
</font><font size=2 face="Arial"><br>
Regards</font><font size=3> </font><font size=2 face="Arial"><br>
Akshay Bhagwat</font><font size=3> </font>
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