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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>We too have HR implemented and only maintain
the Org Structure in Production. When necessary, we use the “rhmove”
programs to bring structure down to Q and/or Dev. Because otherwise, as Susan
mentions, the structure in those boxes very quickly gets beyond ugly!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'>Sandy L Orlandino <sup> </sup></span></font><font
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font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
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sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Keohan, Susan<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, November 18, 2008
10:14 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> SAP Workflow Users' Group<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: Org structure
maintenance</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Hi Gavin,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>We do not transport our org structure
– although I have done so in the past. But we have HR implemented,
and it makes no sense for those folks to be creating and transporting
positions, jobs, etc.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>As a result, our Dev box Org structure has
gotten butchered over the years, and it’s a real struggle to keep a
semblance of reality, but then again, we don’t have to worry about a
‘real’ org structure where developers like to play.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>We assign users in our various systems via
PA0105 – and again, no transports. Not sure if this is a Basis deal
or what. Our user ids are assigned to Persons, who hold Positions, which
are encompassed by Jobs.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Kind of different from the traditional
layout, but it works *<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>pretty much</span></b>*
for us.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>We all use PLVAR 01. I know that
additional Plan Versions are possible, but WF wants version 01, and since we
have peaceful co-existence with HR, we only need that one version.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><br>
Hope this helps,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Sue<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Susan R. Keohan</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>SAP Workflow Specialist</span></font><font
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style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>781-981-3561</span></font><font
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
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sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Gavin Mooney<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, November 17, 2008 9:58
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> SAP Workflow Users' Group<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Org structure maintenance</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><font size=2 face=Helv><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Helv'>Hello
everyone, <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=2 face=Helv><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Helv'>We're
trying to decide how to manage our org structure. The actual structure is very
simple, just based on Org Units, Positions and Users (we're not implementing
SAP HR here). We're on ECC 6.0 / WAS 700. I've been reading some former WUG
posts and the SAP documentation but still have the following questions and I'd
like to know what other projects have done and what is recommended please. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=2 face=Helv><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Helv'>1)
Where to maintain the org structure. <br>
As we don't have a Production environment yet we are maintaining it in
Development. The Transport Connection is set to automatic (i.e. T77S0 entries
for TRSP CORR, TRSP STOBJ and TRSP WFOBJ are all set to space) so the system
asks for a transport for any changes to the org strucure. This seems to be
working ok for now, but I see that we could specify "Transport via object
lock (repair flag)" or "No automatic transport connection" and
then manually run RHMOVE50 or RHMOVE30 to transport to other environments. What
are the pros/cons of these other options? <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=2 face=Helv><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Helv'>Although
I see that some projects choose to maintain the org structure in Production
because it is faster, allows for more reactive fixes, etc. I don't think we
will need to do that as our structure is very simple and hopefully won't change
that often. Also if we maintained it in Prod we would have to merge any changes
back to Dev for testing. Sound ok? <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=2 face=Helv><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Helv'>2)
User assignments<br>
At the moment the system asks for a transport whenever a user is assigned to a
position. So even for unit tests in our Dev environment we need to assign the
user in the golden client and then run SCC1 to move the changes across to the
unit test client. Ideally we'd like to change this so that we can change user
assignments directly in the unit test client (and in the future we'd want to
maintain user assignments direct into production). Is this possible and if so
how? <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=2 face=Helv><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Helv'>Actually
what happens is if I try to change a user assignment in the unit test client I
can do it in PPOMW, then when I click on save the system pops up a message
saying that the client has status not modifiable, but then saves the data
anyway. So we can do it, but it's just not very intuitive - ideally we'd want
to be able to do it without getting the popup (and without opening up the whole
client of course). <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=2 face=Helv><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Helv'>Also
- we don't want to tranport the dev user assignments to production when we
transport the org structure, so do we need to maintain entries in OOTR or is
there a different / better way? <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=2 face=Helv><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Helv'>3)
Plan versions<br>
We would potentially like to maintain different plan versions (for example as
backups) and so have set up number assignment across all plan versions (Table
T77S0 entry NUMRG COMP = 'X'). <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=2 face=Helv><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Helv'>Looking
forward to hearing your opinions and experiences. <br>
Many thanks,<br>
Gavin<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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