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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face="Microsoft Sans Serif" color=#000080
size=3><SPAN class=455215215-15012008>1. The Multiplicity Rule. 1 + 1 does not =
2 if on same project. Laws of diminishing returns. (i.e. tripping over each
other)</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face="Microsoft Sans Serif" color=#000080
size=3><SPAN class=455215215-15012008>2. From the sound of it whatever your
initial guesstimate, double it!</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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size=3><SPAN class=455215215-15012008>3. Your assumption that since you are
using HR org, agent assignment is a non-issue needs adjusting
IMHO.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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size=3><SPAN class=455215215-15012008></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face="Microsoft Sans Serif" color=#000080
size=3><SPAN class=455215215-15012008>re:>> <FONT color=#000000>Hence
agent assignments could be not that complex.</FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face="Microsoft Sans Serif" color=#000080
size=3><SPAN class=455215215-15012008>Unless you are doing the simplest 'Manager
of', </SPAN></FONT><FONT face="Microsoft Sans Serif" size=3><SPAN
class=455215215-15012008>you are in for a surprise!</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face="Microsoft Sans Serif" size=3><SPAN
class=455215215-15012008>From the sound of it, my first suggestion would be to
get someone in that can do this analysis work.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=455215215-15012008><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
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<P><FONT size=2>Rick Sample<BR>SAP Business Workflow Developer<BR>Graybar,
Inc.<BR><BR><BR></P></FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu
[mailto:sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Srinivasan
Ramanan<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, January 15, 2008 9:01 AM<BR><B>To:</B> SAP
Workflow Users' Group<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: Resource
planning<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>Thanks Mike,<BR>I appreciate your inputs. Its really difficult to
answer this question. <BR>What I did is: ( Since I am in the position to answer
this to my company as an employee of the company )<BR>I assumed these
followings:<BR>
10 complex workflows ( having more than 20 tasks
)<BR>
30
medium (
10 to 20 tasks
)<BR>
60
simple
( less than 10 tasks )<BR> <BR>It is decided to implement HR just for
Organizational units purposes. It helps both roles and authorization management.
Hence agent assignments could be not that complex.<BR> <BR>Having a time
line of 6 months only for these work, I am
proposing:<BR>
6 Personnels for development over six months
period<BR> 4
to 6 Personnels for maintain and administer - for support after go
live<BR> <BR>Has anyone else could share some ideas if you have executed
projects even not to this magnitude, but with some 10 - 20 workflows
development. I need some info on how many personnels, how many workflows and how
many months. It will be kind of easy to extrapolate. I do understand that it
will only be an empirical value for resource planning. But we can start with
min. resource and continue to agument as and when the workflows start
development phase.<BR> <BR>regards<BR>Ramanan<BR><BR>
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From: asap@workflowconnections.com<BR>To: sap-wug@mit.edu<BR>Subject: RE:
Resource planning<BR>Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 23:08:07 +0000<BR><BR>
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<P class=EC_MsoNormal><SPAN
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Ramanan, </SPAN></P>
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<P class=EC_MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">That’s
a pretty major project, and there is a good reason all projects go through a
planning phase. Faced with the same question I would estimate at least a
month’s work to come up with an answer that’s anywhere near realistic.
</SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"></SPAN> </P>
<P class=EC_MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">For
starters there are many factors beyond workflow that will influence your
requirements, such as size and makeup of the overall project team, length of
project, willingness to invest in the right skills. Are you going to employ 4+
years’ experienced consultants, or find ABAPers who have built the occasional
WF, or train up inhouse staff? </SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"></SPAN> </P>
<P class=EC_MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Next
you have the workflows themselves. I’ve built approval workflows taking from
two days to over a year. Even specific workflow scenarios are no measure: an
invoice approval can take 10 days at one client and 5 months at another (also
based on personal experience). </SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"></SPAN> </P>
<P class=EC_MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">You
ask how many administrators? What sort of total volumes do you expect? (You
obviously need to volume estimates of each of the workflows..). Do you use HR?
More experienced resources building the WFs will pay off in reduced
maintenance. The workflow I mentioned above created jobs for two
administrators – just looking after the one WF.</SPAN></P>
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<P class=EC_MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Based
on the info in your question, I would seriously suggest you engage an
Experienced (with a capital ‘E’) consultant for at least a few days to get you
started on answering it. </SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"></SPAN> </P>
<P class=EC_MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">If
you insist on a guess: 50% chance you need between 5 and 10 people, 50% chance
you need more or less than that. Flip a coin to see which one. </SPAN></P>
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<P class=EC_MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Cheers,
</SPAN></P>
<P class=EC_MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Mike</SPAN></P>
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sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu] <B>On Behalf Of
</B>Srinivasan Ramanan<BR><B>Sent:</B> 14 January 2008 21:58<BR><B>To:</B>
sap-wug@mit.edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> Resource planning</SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=EC_MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">Dear WUG,<BR>There
are 100 workflows expected to be up and running in ECC6.0<BR>Please consider
that it is not know exactly what are the workflows now.<BR>But please consider
that workflows will be used for create and maintain of all major master data
objects and pretty much for regular task distributions like PO release,
invoice processing etc.,<BR> <BR>My questions are:<BR> <BR>How many
personnels are required at the Development phase for these 100
workflows?<BR> <BR>How may personnels are required for 'maintain' and
'administer' the workflows? <BR> <BR>Anyone who worked at this level,
please I value your inputs very much.<BR>Please respond with your experiences
and emprical calculations.<BR> <BR>thanks in
advance.<BR>Ramanan</SPAN></P>
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