<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
<HTML xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40" xmlns:v =
"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o =
"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w =
"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:st1 =
"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" xmlns:ns1 =
"http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml"><HEAD>
<META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=us-ascii">
<META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.3020" name=GENERATOR><!--[if !mso]>
<STYLE>
v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
.shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
</STYLE>
<![endif]--><o:SmartTagType name="address"
namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></o:SmartTagType><o:SmartTagType
name="PostalCode"
namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></o:SmartTagType><o:SmartTagType
name="State"
namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></o:SmartTagType><o:SmartTagType
name="City"
namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></o:SmartTagType><o:SmartTagType
name="Street"
namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></o:SmartTagType><o:SmartTagType
name="PersonName"
namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></o:SmartTagType><!--[if !mso]>
<STYLE>
st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) }
</STYLE>
<![endif]-->
<STYLE>
<!--a:link
{mso-style-priority:99;}
span.MSOHYPERLINK
{mso-style-priority:99;}
a:visited
{mso-style-priority:99;}
span.MSOHYPERLINKFOLLOWED
{mso-style-priority:99;}
p
{mso-style-priority:99;}
/* Font Definitions */
@font-face
{font-family:Wingdings;
panose-1:5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0;}
@font-face
{font-family:Tahoma;
panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;}
@font-face
{font-family:Kendaia;}
@font-face
{font-family:"Monotype Corsiva";
panose-1:3 1 1 1 1 2 1 1 1 1;}
@font-face
{font-family:Calibri;}
/* Style Definitions */
p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal
{margin:0in;
margin-bottom:.0001pt;
font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman";}
a:link, span.MsoHyperlink
{color:blue;
text-decoration:underline;}
a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed
{color:#606420;
text-decoration:underline;}
p
{mso-margin-top-alt:auto;
margin-right:0in;
mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:0in;
font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman";}
span.EmailStyle18
{mso-style-type:personal;
font-family:Arial;
color:windowtext;}
span.EmailStyle19
{mso-style-type:personal;
font-family:Calibri;
color:#1F497D;}
span.EmailStyle20
{mso-style-type:personal;
font-family:Arial;
color:navy;}
span.EmailStyle21
{mso-style-type:personal;
font-family:Calibri;
color:#1F497D;}
span.EmailStyle22
{mso-style-type:personal;
font-family:Arial;
color:navy;}
span.EmailStyle23
{mso-style-type:personal-reply;
font-family:Arial;
color:navy;}
@page Section1
{size:8.5in 11.0in;
margin:1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in;}
div.Section1
{page:Section1;}
-->
</STYLE>
<!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:shapedefaults v:ext="edit" spidmax="1026" />
</xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:shapelayout v:ext="edit">
<o:idmap v:ext="edit" data="1" />
</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></HEAD>
<BODY lang=EN-US vLink=#606420 link=blue>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face="Microsoft Sans Serif" color=#000080><SPAN
class=700103920-11122007>NP Sue. </SPAN></FONT><FONT face="Microsoft Sans Serif"
color=#000080><SPAN class=700103920-11122007>Glad you figured it out.
</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face="Microsoft Sans Serif" color=#000080><SPAN
class=700103920-11122007>Sometimes it is just best to step away from the
computer for a while. </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face="Microsoft Sans Serif" color=#000080><SPAN
class=700103920-11122007></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face="Microsoft Sans Serif" color=#000080><SPAN
class=700103920-11122007>p.s.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face="Microsoft Sans Serif" color=#000080><SPAN
class=700103920-11122007>Mike, where did you get those </SPAN></FONT><FONT
face="Microsoft Sans Serif" color=#000080><SPAN class=700103920-11122007>"read
between the lines" spectacles? </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face="Microsoft Sans Serif" color=#000080><SPAN
class=700103920-11122007>I could use a pair...<lol></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face="Microsoft Sans Serif" color=#000080><SPAN
class=700103920-11122007></SPAN></FONT> </DIV><FONT
face="Microsoft Sans Serif" color=#000080></FONT><BR>
<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left>
<HR tabIndex=-1>
<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu
[mailto:sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Sue Doughty<BR><B>Sent:</B>
Tuesday, December 11, 2007 1:12 PM<BR><B>To:</B> SAP Workflow Users'
Group<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: Missing Workflow Container<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV class=Section1>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Hi Mike and
Rick,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I’ve got it! I
don’t know why I was being so thick!!<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">When WF-2 reaches the
deadline, as the first step of the Latest end reached path in WF-1 (where WF-2
was called), I execute the task in WF-1 that is executed in WF-2 that is
checking for MISSINGDOCS. Then I have the container information that I
need to send the notification in WF-1.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I guess I had been
looking at it so long, that I couldn’t see the answer that was right in front of
me.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Thanks for your
help!<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<DIV>
<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy">Regards,</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial
color=navy><SPAN style="COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><st1:PersonName w:st="on"><B><I><FONT face="Monotype Corsiva"
color=blue size=5><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-STYLE: italic; FONT-FAMILY: 'Monotype Corsiva'">Sue</SPAN></FONT></I></B></st1:PersonName><B><I><FONT
face="Monotype Corsiva" color=blue size=5><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-STYLE: italic; FONT-FAMILY: 'Monotype Corsiva'">
T. Doughty</SPAN></FONT></I></B><B><I><FONT face=Kendaia color=blue size=5><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-STYLE: italic; FONT-FAMILY: Kendaia">
<BR></SPAN></FONT></I></B><FONT color=navy size=1><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt; COLOR: navy">SAP Workflow
Specialist<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=green size=1><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt; COLOR: green">OLD DOMINION FREIGHT LINE,
INC.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><st1:address
style="BACKGROUND-POSITION: left bottom; BACKGROUND-IMAGE: url(res://ietag.dll/#34/#1001); BACKGROUND-REPEAT: repeat-x"
tabIndex=0 w:st="on"><st1:Street w:st="on"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
color=navy size=1><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt; COLOR: navy">500 Old Dominion
Way</SPAN></FONT></st1:Street><FONT color=navy size=1><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt; COLOR: navy">, <st1:City
w:st="on">Thomasville</st1:City>, <st1:State w:st="on">NC</st1:State>
<st1:PostalCode
w:st="on">27360</st1:PostalCode></SPAN></FONT></st1:address><FONT color=navy
size=1><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt; COLOR: navy"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy size=1><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt; COLOR: navy">Toll Free :(800)432-6335,
ext.5189</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=1><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT
color=navy size=1><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt; COLOR: navy">Phone :(336)822-5189
Fax :(336)822-5149</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=1><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <BR></SPAN></FONT><SPAN
class=MsoHyperlink><U><FONT color=blue size=1><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt"><A
href="mailto:sue.doughty@odfl.com">sue.doughty@odfl.com</A></SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></U></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">
<HR tabIndex=-1 align=center width="100%" SIZE=2>
</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">
sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B><st1:PersonName
w:st="on"><st1:PersonName w:st="on">Sue</st1:PersonName>
Doughty</st1:PersonName><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B>
Tuesday, December 11, 2007 12:46 PM<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">SAP Workflow
Users' Group</st1:PersonName><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> RE: Missing Workflow
Container</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Hi
Mike,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Sorry about that….I had
responded to Rick’s message before I read yours – which turned the light
on!! It makes sense.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I just don’t know how I
can move the deadline into the called sub-workflow. It is a loop that
executes a method that determines the MISSINGDOCS. If there are any in the
list, the user gets a “Documents missing” decision work item. They have
the option of retrying (which starts the loop again) or leaving the work item in
their in-box. So, if a user kept retrying daily, it would create a new
work item and we would never get to the week
deadline.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<DIV>
<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy">Regards,</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial
color=navy><SPAN style="COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><st1:PersonName w:st="on"><B><I><FONT face="Monotype Corsiva"
color=blue size=5><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-STYLE: italic; FONT-FAMILY: 'Monotype Corsiva'">Sue</SPAN></FONT></I></B></st1:PersonName><B><I><FONT
face="Monotype Corsiva" color=blue size=5><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-STYLE: italic; FONT-FAMILY: 'Monotype Corsiva'">
T. Doughty</SPAN></FONT></I></B><B><I><FONT face=Kendaia color=blue size=5><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-STYLE: italic; FONT-FAMILY: Kendaia">
<BR></SPAN></FONT></I></B><FONT color=navy size=1><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt; COLOR: navy">SAP Workflow
Specialist<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=green size=1><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt; COLOR: green">OLD DOMINION FREIGHT LINE,
INC.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><st1:address
style="BACKGROUND-POSITION: left bottom; BACKGROUND-IMAGE: url(res://ietag.dll/#34/#1001); BACKGROUND-REPEAT: repeat-x"
tabIndex=0 w:st="on"><st1:Street w:st="on"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
color=navy size=1><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt; COLOR: navy">500 Old Dominion
Way</SPAN></FONT></st1:Street><FONT color=navy size=1><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt; COLOR: navy">, <st1:City
w:st="on">Thomasville</st1:City>, <st1:State w:st="on">NC</st1:State>
<st1:PostalCode
w:st="on">27360</st1:PostalCode></SPAN></FONT></st1:address><FONT color=navy
size=1><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt; COLOR: navy"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy size=1><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt; COLOR: navy">Toll Free :(800)432-6335,
ext.5189</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=1><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT
color=navy size=1><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt; COLOR: navy">Phone :(336)822-5189
Fax :(336)822-5149</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=1><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <BR></SPAN></FONT><SPAN
class=MsoHyperlink><U><FONT color=blue size=1><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt"><A
href="mailto:sue.doughty@odfl.com">sue.doughty@odfl.com</A></SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></U></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">
<HR tabIndex=-1 align=center width="100%" SIZE=2>
</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">
sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Mike Pokraka<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Tuesday, December 11, 2007 8:56
AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> '<st1:PersonName
w:st="on">SAP Workflow Users' Group</st1:PersonName>'<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> RE: Missing Workflow
Container</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Calibri color=#1f497d size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri">Hi <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">Sue</st1:PersonName>,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Calibri color=#1f497d size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Calibri color=#1f497d size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri">That contradicts
what you just confirmed in response to Rick's message </SPAN></FONT><FONT
face=Wingdings color=#1f497d size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings">J</SPAN></FONT><FONT
face=Calibri color=#1f497d size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Calibri color=#1f497d size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Calibri color=#1f497d size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri">If the deadline is
anywhere in the *<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">calling</SPAN></B>*
workflow, then that is the one terminating the subworkflow. The subworkflow
retains all its settings and container element is, but because the termination
happens from outside it should *<B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">not</SPAN></B>* bind anything back. As I said earlier,
the calling workflow does not know whether the subworkflow is in a consistent
state or has valid data.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Calibri color=#1f497d size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Calibri color=#1f497d size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri">Think of the
relationship between the two analogous to calling an RFC function in another
system: the caller submits a function call together with parameters and wait for
a response from the other system. After a certain period of time it assumes that
something has gone wrong and stops waiting and continues with a predefined error
handling process. There are no return parameters involved here. The principle
with both the RFC and calling workflows is a “black box” - the caller does
not know what happens inside the function or process that it is calling, it's
just interested in a result.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Calibri color=#1f497d size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Calibri color=#1f497d size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri">Cheers,
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Calibri color=#1f497d size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri">Mike<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Calibri color=#1f497d size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Calibri color=#1f497d size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<DIV>
<DIV
style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: #b5c4df 1pt solid; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 3pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none">
<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">
sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B><st1:PersonName
w:st="on"><st1:PersonName w:st="on">Sue</st1:PersonName>
Doughty</st1:PersonName><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B>
11 December 2007 12:42<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
<st1:PersonName w:st="on">SAP Workflow Users' Group</st1:PersonName><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> RE: Missing Workflow
Container<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Mike,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">After looking at this
again….the deadline is in the calling workflow – on the sub-workflow task that
is being called. Why am I seeing the MISSINGDOCS container having the
entries in it in the log though – shouldn’t all the containers of the
sub-workflow be empty if the deadline is reached?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I will move the
deadline to the sub-workflow and see if that fixes my
problem.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Thanks for your
input.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<DIV>
<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy">Regards,</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial
color=navy><SPAN style="COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><st1:PersonName w:st="on"><B><I><FONT face="Monotype Corsiva"
color=blue size=5><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-STYLE: italic; FONT-FAMILY: 'Monotype Corsiva'">Sue</SPAN></FONT></I></B></st1:PersonName><B><I><FONT
face="Monotype Corsiva" color=blue size=5><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-STYLE: italic; FONT-FAMILY: 'Monotype Corsiva'">
T. Doughty</SPAN></FONT></I></B><B><I><FONT face=Kendaia color=blue size=5><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-STYLE: italic; FONT-FAMILY: Kendaia">
<BR></SPAN></FONT></I></B><FONT color=navy size=1><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt; COLOR: navy">SAP Workflow
Specialist<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=green size=1><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt; COLOR: green">OLD DOMINION FREIGHT LINE,
INC.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><st1:address w:st="on"><st1:Street w:st="on"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" color=navy size=1><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt; COLOR: navy">500 Old Dominion
Way</SPAN></FONT></st1:Street><FONT color=navy size=1><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt; COLOR: navy">, <st1:City
w:st="on">Thomasville</st1:City>, <st1:State w:st="on">NC</st1:State>
<st1:PostalCode
w:st="on">27360</st1:PostalCode></SPAN></FONT></st1:address><FONT color=navy
size=1><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt; COLOR: navy"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy size=1><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt; COLOR: navy">Toll Free :(800)432-6335,
ext.5189</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=1><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT
color=navy size=1><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt; COLOR: navy">Phone :(336)822-5189
Fax :(336)822-5149</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=1><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <BR></SPAN></FONT><SPAN
class=MsoHyperlink><U><FONT color=blue size=1><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt"><A
href="mailto:sue.doughty@odfl.com">sue.doughty@odfl.com</A></SPAN></FONT></U></SPAN><SPAN
class=MsoHyperlink><U><FONT color=blue><SPAN
lang=EN-GB><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></U></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">
<HR align=center width="100%" SIZE=2>
</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">
sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Mike Pokraka<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Monday, December 10, 2007 4:55
PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> '<st1:PersonName
w:st="on">SAP Workflow Users' Group</st1:PersonName>'<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> RE: Missing Workflow
Container</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Calibri color=#1f497d size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri">Hi <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">Sue</st1:PersonName>,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Calibri color=#1f497d size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Calibri color=#1f497d size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri">This makes sense.
If the deadline is being reached in your calling workflow then the subworkflow
will not be completed and no binding back to the calling flow will be executed.
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Calibri color=#1f497d size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Calibri color=#1f497d size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri">Why does this make
perfect sense? Simple: because the calling workflow with the expiring deadline
does not know what state the subworkflow is in. It might be halfway through
processing and contain some invalid or garbage data. Therefore it definitely
should not bind anything back if it is the calling flow that terminates the
subflow. Another way to look at it is that the subflow is the only one
allowed to perform any binding. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Calibri color=#1f497d size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Calibri color=#1f497d size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri">The answer to what
you are trying to accomplish - getting a subflow container element back to the
calling workflow when a deadline is reached - would be to put the deadline into
the subworkflow.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Calibri color=#1f497d size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Calibri color=#1f497d size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Calibri color=#1f497d size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri">Mike<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Calibri color=#1f497d size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<DIV>
<DIV
style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: #b5c4df 1pt solid; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 3pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none">
<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">
sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B><st1:PersonName
w:st="on"><st1:PersonName w:st="on">Sue</st1:PersonName>
Doughty</st1:PersonName><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B>
10 December 2007 17:46<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
<st1:PersonName w:st="on">SAP Workflow Users' Group</st1:PersonName><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Missing Workflow
Container<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">We are on ECC
6.0.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I know I must be doing something
really stupid, but I can’t see it!! <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I have a workflow (WF-1) that calls
a sub-workflow (WF-2). The sub-workflow (WF-2) has a Deadline on it.
The sub-workflow (WF-2) returns a multi-line container (MISSINGDOCS) back
to the calling workflow (WF-1). When the deadline is reached, the latest
end path in the workflow (WF-1) executes a BO SELFITEM, Task SENDTASKDESCRIPTION
to send notification to a Personnel clerk that shows which documents are
missing.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">The MISSINGDOCS container contains a
list of the documents that are missing. I can see the MISSINGDOCS
container being returned from the sub-workflow (WF-2), but the container is
empty when sent into the notification step in WF-1.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I have checked all the Import/Export
parameters. The task being executed for the SELFITEM BO has the
MISSINGDOCS container as an Import container. The MISSINGDOCS container is
used in the Text Description of the task.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">When I look at the log, the task
shows the MISSINGDOCS container as being empty for the SELFITEM task. I
tried putting a container operation right after the sub-workflow (WF-2) returns
to the workflow (WF-1) (before going to the SELFITEM task) to move the
MISSINGDOCS container to another container, but it is empty at that point
also.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">What am I
missing????<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Regards,</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><st1:PersonName w:st="on"><B><I><FONT face="Monotype Corsiva"
color=blue size=5><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-STYLE: italic; FONT-FAMILY: 'Monotype Corsiva'">Sue</SPAN></FONT></I></B></st1:PersonName><B><I><FONT
face="Monotype Corsiva" color=blue size=5><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-STYLE: italic; FONT-FAMILY: 'Monotype Corsiva'">
T. Doughty</SPAN></FONT></I></B><B><I><FONT face=Kendaia color=blue size=5><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-STYLE: italic; FONT-FAMILY: Kendaia">
<BR></SPAN></FONT></I></B><FONT size=1><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt">SAP
Workflow Specialist<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=green size=1><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt; COLOR: green">OLD DOMINION FREIGHT LINE,
INC.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><st1:address w:st="on"><st1:Street w:st="on"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=1><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">500 Old Dominion
Way</SPAN></FONT></st1:Street><FONT size=1><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">,
<st1:City w:st="on">Thomasville</st1:City>, <st1:State w:st="on">NC</st1:State>
<st1:PostalCode
w:st="on">27360</st1:PostalCode></SPAN></FONT></st1:address><FONT size=1><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=1><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt">Toll Free :(800)432-6335, ext.5189</SPAN></FONT><FONT
face=Arial size=1><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
<BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT size=1><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt">Phone :(336)822-5189
Fax :(336)822-5149</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial size=1><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <BR></SPAN></FONT><SPAN
class=MsoHyperlink><U><FONT color=blue size=1><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 8pt"><A
href="mailto:sue.doughty@odfl.com">sue.doughty@odfl.com</A></SPAN></FONT></U></SPAN><SPAN
class=MsoHyperlink><U><FONT color=blue><SPAN
lang=EN-GB><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></U></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">**************************** <BR>CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE:
The information contained in this message may be confidential, privileged,
proprietary, or otherwise legally exempt from disclosure. If the reader of this
message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for
delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that
you are not authorized to read, print, retain, copy or disseminate this message,
any part of it, or any attachments. If you have received this message in error,
please delete this message and any attachments from your system without reading
the content and notify the sender immediately of the inadvertent transmission.
Thank you for your cooperation.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">**************************** <BR>CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE:
The information contained in this message may be confidential, privileged,
proprietary, or otherwise legally exempt from disclosure. If the reader of this
message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for
delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that
you are not authorized to read, print, retain, copy or disseminate this message,
any part of it, or any attachments. If you have received this message in error,
please delete this message and any attachments from your system without reading
the content and notify the sender immediately of the inadvertent transmission.
Thank you for your cooperation.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">**************************** <BR>CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE:
The information contained in this message may be confidential, privileged,
proprietary, or otherwise legally exempt from disclosure. If the reader of this
message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for
delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that
you are not authorized to read, print, retain, copy or disseminate this message,
any part of it, or any attachments. If you have received this message in error,
please delete this message and any attachments from your system without reading
the content and notify the sender immediately of the inadvertent transmission.
Thank you for your cooperation.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<P></P>
<P>**************************** <BR>CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: The information
contained in this message may be confidential, privileged, proprietary, or
otherwise legally exempt from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not
the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this
message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you are not
authorized to read, print, retain, copy or disseminate this message, any part of
it, or any attachments. If you have received this message in error, please
delete this message and any attachments from your system without reading the
content and notify the sender immediately of the inadvertent transmission. Thank
you for your cooperation. </P></BODY></HTML>