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color=#0000ff size=2>I had asked some questions below and got some good
responses. Now, we are actually ready to begin configuring the system and
have run into a roadblock.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2>If the account assignment only changes on a PO, we want
workflow to restart if the PO meets a certain total value. If the value of
the PO does not change, how can we get the release strategy reset on an account
change only?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=020020222-05032007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Monique Stephens</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu
[mailto:sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Mark Pyc<BR><B>Sent:</B>
Monday, March 13, 2006 10:09 AM<BR><B>To:</B> SAP Workflow Users'
Group<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: PO Workflow (Mark Pyc)<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV>G'day Monique,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Typically the event 'BUS2012.ReleaseStepCreated' would be the trigger to
your Workflow. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Splitting symantic hairs it's not that the release strategies apply once
they are in WF, but that a release strategy being invoked will be the trigger to
start the WF process. On this basis WF will only start when a change is
'significant' which means when a release strategy is applied or reset. When you
configure the release strategy you can control tolerances of the changes allowed
before a release is reset and WF restarted. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I'm not sure if existing PO's are changed to use a new Release Strategy if
they are created initially without one and then changed after the config changes
to set up the new strategy, but I would have thought so. As such I don't think
existing POs should be a problem for you. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>If you have both SRM generated and normal backend created PO's you may need
to use start conditions based on Doc Type if you want difference WF processes to
be invoked.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Good luck,</DIV>
<DIV>Mark<BR><BR> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=gmail_quote>On 13/03/06, <B class=gmail_sendername>Stephens,
Monique S L</B> <<A
href="mailto:moniques@bcm.tmc.edu">moniques@bcm.tmc.edu</A>> wrote:</SPAN>
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style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">All
of our PO's will be subject to the same release strategies once they are in
workflow. The problem I have right now is that I don't know how to
get the PO's into a workflow process if they were never subject to workflow
before. I have found a way to start workflow. But, it
would then start <BR>regardless of type of change made. This may
not be so bad considering the fact that the user has made some type of
change.<BR><BR>Monique<BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: <A
href="mailto:sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu">sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu</A> [mailto:<A
href="mailto:sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu">sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu</A>] On Behalf
Of Antonio, Bryan<BR>Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 2:33 PM<BR>To: <A
href="mailto:sap-wug@mit.edu">sap-wug@mit.edu </A><BR>Subject: Re: PO Workflow
(Mark Pyc)<BR><BR>Hi Monique,<BR><BR>Let me give Q1 a shot. How about creating
a function module that will be called by the user exit for determining the
release strategy for SRM PO's. I'm not sure if the user exit for regular PO
creation is the same as for PO created through SRM. You can also throw some
codes in the so-called FM that <BR>will check certain criteria (account
assignment, item category, qty, etc.). If these criteria are not met, the FM
can return a blank release strategy (PO is not subject for release - then
workflow won't start). It sounds like you already have the customizing
settings for PO release strategy. Would <BR>the SRM PO have a different
release strategy?<BR><BR>Regarding PO auto-release, how about executing ME28
(Collective Release) in background using specific criteria for the PO's you
want released.<BR><BR>I hope this helps.
<BR><BR>Thanks,<BR>Bryan<BR><BR>----------------------------------------------------------------------<BR><BR>Message:
1<BR>Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 18:12:56 +0000<BR>From: "Mark Pyc" <<A
href="mailto:mark.pyc@gmail.com"> mark.pyc@gmail.com</A>><BR>Subject: Re:
PO Workflow<BR>To: "SAP Workflow Users' Group" <<A
href="mailto:sap-wug@mit.edu">sap-wug@mit.edu</A>><BR>Message-ID: <<A
href="mailto:23f0a78a0603101012k549a818fx@mail.gmail.com">
23f0a78a0603101012k549a818fx@mail.gmail.com</A>><BR>Content-Type:
text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1<BR><BR>I don't know of a way to auto-release.
I'm talking about creating a new WF which is a cut back version of your
approval WF. Just take out all the approval stuff and leave the release. I
haven't sussed it entirely yet, but there will be something that can be used
in a Start Condition so that this <BR>auto release WF only starts for brand
new EC purchase orders.<BR><BR>Hope this helps.<BR><BR>Mark<BR><BR>On
10/03/06, Stephens, Monique S L <<A
href="mailto:moniques@bcm.tmc.edu">moniques@bcm.tmc.edu</A>> wrote:
<BR>>
Mark,<BR>><BR>> Thank you
for responding back so
quickly.<BR>><BR>> A
charge source is the wording I have used for cost center or<BR>WBS
element. I believe the appropriate SAP word would be account
assignment. <BR>><BR>> In
regards to question #1, is there a way to automatically<BR>release the PO's
already in the system or is this something that will only work after workflow
is changed?<BR>><BR>> Monique<BR>> <BR>> -----Original
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On<BR>Behalf Of Mark Pyc <BR>> Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 9:46 AM<BR>>
To: SAP Workflow Users' Group<BR>> Subject: Re: PO Workflow<BR>><BR>>
G'day Monique,<BR>><BR>> Firstly, 'only a functional
person'?? Come now, big up yourself. Most <BR>of us are only WF
people.<BR>><BR>> I'm looking at the same thing currently. I'll have a
crack at numbers<BR>> 1 & 3, but as I'm only a WF person I'm not sure
what a 'charge source'<BR>> is so will leave 2 for someone else.
<BR>><BR>> 1. You can't have the Release strategy kick in only on
change, but you<BR>can have a WF which will automatically release in the
background on first creation. That way when the Approved cart is brought
across as a PO it will block and then be automatically released by WF. Any
future changes (depending <BR>> on your Release Strategy config around
tolerances<BR>> etc) will cause the Release Strategy to kick in again. At
that point<BR>you can have an approval WF.<BR>><BR>> 3. Before you offer
the approval step you could store in a container <BR>the current value of the
header notes and have validation in the tail end of the method to ensure that
it had changed before completing the Workitem. Developer stuff, but not
difficult.<BR>><BR>> Have fun,<BR>> Mark <BR>><BR>> On
10/03/06, Stephens, Monique S L <<A
href="mailto:moniques@bcm.tmc.edu">moniques@bcm.tmc.edu</A>> wrote:<BR>>
> Hello fellow workflowers! I had posed this question before
but<BR>cannot<BR>> > find the response I received. But, the
criteria has changed a bit <BR>and<BR>> > I need some
input. I am not an expert at workflow. I am only
a<BR>functional person.<BR>> > We have another person here
that actually does the technical<BR>aspects<BR>> > of
workflow. Therefore, please give me good details as to what
<BR>needs<BR>> > to be done if it is possible or not.<BR>>
><BR>> ><BR>> > Prior to SRM, our users created PO's that would
then route through<BR>> > workflow for approvals at several levels
(department, Environmental <BR>> > Safety, Grants, Finance, then
Purchasing). We have most of this set<BR>> > up in
configuration with the different release levels, codes, and<BR>> >
indicators, as well as within the workflow logic. <BR>> ><BR>> >
Once we went live with SRM, users were creating shopping carts that<BR>>
> would route through workflow. The PO would be created
automatically<BR>> > on the R3 side for catalog orders or converted into
a PO by our <BR>> > Purchasing department for non-catalog
orders. These PO's are not<BR>set<BR>> > up to go through any
workflow. Users are not allowed to make<BR>changes to these
particular PO's.<BR>> > Obviously, that has been a BIG issue with our
departments that were <BR>> > used to making valid changes (different
charge source, remove<BR>> > commitments, add header notes,
etc.). We have therefore decided to<BR>> > implement a
workflow that will encompass our pre-SRM PO workflow as <BR>> > well as
the SRM PO's. This is where the questions begin.<BR>>
><BR>> > 1. For the SRM PO's, they do not currently have a
release status<BR>> > since they have not gone into workflow
before. How do you tell the <BR>> > system that workflow
should only begin for these PO's if certain<BR>> > criteria are
met? Is this something that can be done in<BR>configuration<BR>>
> with the other release steps? Once a release status is given,
it <BR>> > should follow the workflow we already have in place.<BR>>
><BR>> > 2. If a charge source is changed, is that
something done in<BR>> > configuration or the workflow logic?<BR>>
><BR>> > 3. If a PO is changed, how can we ask the users
to put something in <BR>> > the header notes explaining what was changed
as part of a<BR>validation?<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> > Monique
Stephens<BR>> > SAP Analyst<BR>> > Baylor College of
Medicine<BR>> > 713-798-1349 <BR>> > 713-798-1326 (FAX)<BR>>
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<BR><BR>Message: 2<BR>Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 12:29:28 -0700<BR>From: "Sims,
Lori A" <<A
href="mailto:Lori.Sims@northwestern.com">Lori.Sims@northwestern.com</A>><BR>Subject:
Please Help<BR>To: <<A href="mailto:sap-wug@mit.edu">
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<BR><BR>Hello,<BR><BR>
I am fairly new to SAP Workflow. I am working with a custom
workflow that we have cloned from a standard SAP workflow. We have
added a decision step and now want the decision step with all of its
<BR>options in a loop until. I am having problems
adding a loop until<BR>that will include all of the decision step and all of
its options. Can anyone, please advise. We are on 4.6C
and since you can only select one step and then insert the Loop until - the
loop until only includes my decision and not the options. Should I
have created the Loop Until step first and <BR>then inserted the decision step
inside the loop. Is order of steps my problem
here? Thanks in advance for any help.<BR><BR><BR><BR>Lori
Sims<BR><BR>Application Development<BR><BR>(406)497-3632<BR><BR><A
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<BR><BR>Message: 3<BR>Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 11:58:29 -0800<BR>From: Sandip
Jana <<A
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RE: Object Services for custom business object<BR>To: "SAP Workflow Users'
Group" < <A
href="mailto:sap-wug@mit.edu">sap-wug@mit.edu</A>><BR>Message-ID:<BR><BR><<A
href="mailto:OFB140423A.5961A13A-ON8825712D.006C3E0C-8825712D.006C4A23@in.ibm.com">OFB140423A.5961A13A-ON8825712D.006C3E0C-8825712D.006C4A23@in.ibm.com
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This helped me a lot.<BR><BR>Thanks,<BR>Sandip<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>"Tiwari,
Rammanohar" <<A href="mailto:rammanohar.tiwari@logicacmg.com">
rammanohar.tiwari@logicacmg.com</A>> Sent by: <A
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10:25 PM<BR>Please respond to<BR>"SAP Workflow Users'
Group"<BR><BR><BR>To<BR>"SAP Workflow Users' Group" < <A
href="mailto:sap-wug@mit.edu">sap-wug@mit.edu</A>><BR>cc<BR><BR>Subject<BR>RE:
Object Services for custom business object<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>The
links below might be of some help to you...<BR><A
href="http://www.geocities.com/rmtiwari/Resources/Training/BusinessWorkflow/SA">http://www.geocities.com/rmtiwari/Resources/Training/BusinessWorkflow/SA</A><BR>PApplicationDevelopment.htm<BR>or<BR><A
href="http://www.geocities.com/rmtiwari/Resources/Training/BusinessWorkflow/SA">http://www.geocities.com/rmtiwari/Resources/Training/BusinessWorkflow/SA
</A><BR>PApplicationDevelopment.pdf<BR>Cheers,<BR>Ram<BR>-----Original
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Behalf<BR>Of<BR>Sandip Jana<BR>Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 6:50 AM<BR>To: SAP
Workflow Users' Group<BR>Subject: RE: Object Services for custom business
object<BR><BR><BR>Hi Richard,<BR><BR>Do you have any link or copy of Practical
Workflow book? <BR><BR>Thanks,<BR>Sandip<BR><BR>IBM Global Service India Pvt.
India<BR>Solution Delivery Centre, Kolkata<BR>E-mail: <A
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33 2367 5700, Ext. 2242 <BR>Mobile: +91 9830744306<BR><BR><BR>"Richard Marut"
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04:51 PM<BR><BR>Please respond to<BR>"SAP Workflow Users'
Group"<BR><BR><BR><BR>To<BR>"'SAP Workflow Users' Group'" <<A
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Object Services for custom business
object<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>You can find it in the Practical
Workflow book in sections 13.3.4
and<BR>13.3.5<BR><BR>Richard?<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>From: <A
href="mailto:sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu">sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu</A> [mailto:<A
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Services for custom business object<BR><BR><BR>Hi,<BR><BR>I have created a
custom business object. I also have a custom<BR>transaction<BR>to display some
info. How could I configure the object services for my <BR>custom object? Any
help will be
appreciated.<BR><BR>Thanks,<BR>Sandip_______________________________________________<BR>SAP-WUG
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4<BR>Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 16:47:12 -0300<BR>From: "Gavin Mooney" <<A
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Re: Please Help<BR>To: "SAP Workflow Users' Group" <<A
href="mailto:sap-wug@mit.edu">sap-wug@mit.edu</A>><BR>Message-ID: <<A
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text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252<BR><BR>Hi Lori,<BR><BR>When you create a new
loop it's added with nothing "inside" it, you<BR>then add all the steps that
you want to be in the loop. If you've <BR>already created your decision step
you should be able to cut and paste<BR>it (and all of it's options should be
copied at the same time, as they<BR>form a block together) into the loop. You
do of course risk the wrath <BR>of the buggy workflow builder though - on 4.6C
I often found copying<BR>and pasting didn't do exactly what I was expecting.
Save the workflow<BR>first!<BR><BR>HTH<BR>- Gavin<BR><BR>2006/3/10, Sims, Lori
A <<A href="mailto:Lori.Sims@northwestern.com">
Lori.Sims@northwestern.com</A>>:<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>
Hello,<BR>><BR>>
I am fairly new to SAP Workflow. I am working with
a<BR>custom<BR>> workflow that we have cloned from a standard SAP
workflow. We have <BR>added a<BR>> decision step and now want
the decision step with all of its options<BR>in a<BR>> loop
until. I am having problems adding a loop until that
will<BR>include<BR>> all of the decision step and all of its
options. Can anyone, please <BR>advise.<BR>> We are
on 4.6C and since you can only select one step and then insert<BR>the<BR>>
Loop until ? the loop until only includes my decision and not
the<BR>options.<BR>> Should I have created the Loop Until step first and
then inserted the <BR>> decision step inside the loop. Is order
of steps my problem here?<BR>Thanks<BR>> in advance for any
help.<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> Lori Sims<BR>><BR>> Application
Development<BR>><BR>> (406)497-3632 <BR>><BR>> <A
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