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<div>I belong to the No Hacking club ;-)</div>
<div>I had the good fortune to be on two projects upgrading severely hacked systems!</div>
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<SPAN class=correction id="">Ramki</SPAN> <SPAN class=correction id="">Maley</SPAN>.</div>
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<div dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=133523807-25012007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>Ah, I didn't think far enough. You are of course right in that it is not straightforward to actually prevent the <SPAN class=correction id="">workflow</SPAN> from being started. So then the question is how far you are willing to go in terms of hacking the <SPAN class=correction id="">GOS</SPAN> functionality....</FONT></SPAN></div>
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<div dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=133523807-25012007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>Note: I didn't recommend that you hack the <SPAN class=correction id="">GOS</SPAN>, I just mentioned that it is a possibility :-)</FONT></SPAN></div>
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<FONT face=Tahoma><B>From:</B> sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu [<SPAN class=correction id="">mailto</SPAN>:sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu] <B>On Behalf Of </B>workflow99@aol.com<br>
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<div>Sorry Mike, not in this case. <SPAN class=correction id=""><SPAN class=correction id="">SWETYPV</SPAN></SPAN> comes in only when the <SPAN class=correction id=""><SPAN class=correction id="">workflow</SPAN></SPAN> is started by an event. In my case I need to start the <SPAN class=correction id=""><SPAN class=correction id="">workflow</SPAN></SPAN> directly. </div>
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<div>Not if you invoke the function module as part of the <SPAN class=correction id=""><SPAN class=correction id="">SWETYPV</SPAN></SPAN> configuration and use it to decide whether to start a <SPAN class=correction id=""><SPAN class=correction id="">workflow</SPAN></SPAN> or not !</div>
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<div><SPAN class=gmail_quote>On 24/01/07, <B class=gmail_sendername><A>workflow99@aol.com</A></B> <<A>workflow99@aol.com</A>> wrote:</SPAN>
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<div>Thanks <SPAN><SPAN class=correction id=""><SPAN class=correction id="">Kjetil</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN>! I am aware of the FM. Even with the FM, I would need a background step and end up with a <SPAN><SPAN class=correction id=""><SPAN class=correction id="">workflow</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN> instance that starts and then ends. And as you mention no feedback to the user other than a mail notification. </div>
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<div style="CLEAR: both">Best Regards,<br>
<SPAN><SPAN class=correction id=""><SPAN class=correction id="">Ramki</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN> <SPAN><SPAN class=correction id=""><SPAN class=correction id="">Maley</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN>.</div>
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<div dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>Of course. Function module SAP_WAPI_WORKITEMS_TO_OBJECT is always one of your best friends.</FONT></SPAN></div>
<div dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>Your main problem will be feedback to the user, who should be told why a <SPAN><SPAN class=correction id=""><SPAN class=correction id="">workflow</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN> is not started.</FONT></SPAN></div>
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<FONT face=Tahoma><B>From:</B> <A>sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu</A> [<SPAN><SPAN class=correction id=""><SPAN class=correction id="">mailto</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN>:<A> sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu</A>] <B>On Behalf Of </B><A>workflow99@aol.com</A><br>
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<div>Hello friends,</div>
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<div>Have a <SPAN><SPAN><SPAN class=correction id=""><SPAN class=correction id="">workflow</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN> that is started by an event. Now, there is a need to allow the users to start the same <SPAN><SPAN><SPAN class=correction id=""><SPAN class=correction id="">Workflow</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN> from <SPAN><SPAN><SPAN class=correction id=""><SPAN class=correction id="">GOS</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN> as well. Is there any way to prevent the <SPAN><SPAN><SPAN class=correction id=""><SPAN class=correction id="">GOS</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN> from starting the <SPAN><SPAN><SPAN class=correction id=""><SPAN class=correction id="">Workflow</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN> if an incomplete <SPAN><SPAN><SPAN class=correction id=""><SPAN class=correction id="">workflow</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN> instance exists for the object? User training is not an option ;)</div>
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<div><SPAN><SPAN><SPAN class=correction id=""><SPAN class=correction id="">TIA</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN>.</div>
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<div style="CLEAR: both">Best Regards,<br>
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<div style="CLEAR: both">Cross posted in SAP-WUG & <SPAN><SPAN class=correction id=""><SPAN class=correction id="">SDN</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN>.</div>
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