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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><font face="Times New Roman"> </font><font face="Times New Roman">Our client want to use Org unit to determine approver.</font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><font face="Times New Roman"><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>Say A is the supervisor of B, </font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><font face="Times New Roman">B the supervisor of C,</font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><font face="Times New Roman"><span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>C the supervisor of D, </font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><font face="Times New Roman">Now when E creates time sheet, using org unit workflow should automatically rout time sheet for approval to D. Similarly when D creates it should go to C and so on.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><font face="Times New Roman">What I learned is in the scenario we have to use TS20000460(???).</font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><font face="Times New Roman">In spro under 'Setup data entry profile' under the tab 'person selection', I selected org.unit and found following help note</font></p>
<h3 style="MARGIN: auto 0in"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><font color="#000080">Person Selection by Organizational Unit</font></span></h3>
<p><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Determines that the system selects all personnel numbers assigned to a specified organizational unit, when you call the data entry profile.</span></p>
<h3 style="MARGIN: auto 0in"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><font color="#000080">Dependencies</font></span></h3>
<p><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Personnel numbers are assigned to an organizational unit</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 1in"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">a) By specifying a position in the Personnel Actions infotype (0000) in HR</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 1in"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">b) By maintaining the staffing schedule</span></p>
<p><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">You can use the user parameter PON (object ID PD) to determine which organizational unit the system uses to select the personnel numbers.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><font face="Times New Roman">I didn't fully understand above help so can you please tell me how to <strong>tell</strong> workflow touse a particular org unit?.</font></p>
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<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 12/27/06, <b class="gmail_sendername">Nash John</b> <<a href="mailto:emailtonash@gmail.com">emailtonash@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span>
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<div>As always thanks Claude. Thanks a lot.You are a good samaritan.</div><span class="sg">
<div> </div>
<div>-Nash<br><br> </div></span>
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<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 12/27/06, <b class="gmail_sendername">Claude Bourque</b> <<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:cbourque@bank-banque-canada.ca" target="_blank">cbourque@bank-banque-canada.ca
</a>> wrote:</span>
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<div><span><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">You should check to see if the employee you are testing has a time administrator entered in the Org Assignment infotype (IT0001).</font></span></div>
<div><span><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"></font></span> </div>
<div><span><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">Go to transaction PA20, enter the personnel number, then enter 1 in the infotype field followed by the display icon. In the lower right-hand side of the org assignment infotype, you'll see 3 fields (Pers Admin, Time Admin and Payroll Admin). The workflow will only work if the Time Admin field is populated. The values for the 3 fields come from table T526 where you link the Administrators to their user ids.
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<div><span><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"></font></span> </div>
<div><span><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">Claude</font></span></div>
<div></div>
<div lang="en-us" dir="ltr" align="left"><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span>-----Original Message-----<br><b>From:</b> <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu" target="_blank">
sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu</a> [mailto:<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu" target="_blank">sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Nash John<br></span>
<div><span><b>Sent:</b> December 26, 2006 9:08 AM<br><b>To:</b> SAP Workflow Users' Group<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: CATS WORKFLOW<br><br></span></div></font></div>
<div><span>
<div>Hi,</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Now when I test my workflow I'm getting following error 'workflow agent cannot be determined'.</div>
<div>Following are the setting I did in workflow as well as in SPRO.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>1. I'm using task 'TS20000459' - TIME ADMIN</div>
<div>2. made TS20000459 as 'general task'.</div>
<div>3. used the varient "WORKFLOW'</div>
<div>4. under 'setup data entry profile' in spro did following: </div>
<div> </div>
<div> i) under 'person selection' tab selected radio button 'Time Administrator'.</div>
<div> ii)under 'Approval' i selected 'with approval procedure'.</div>
<div> iii)under 'workflow' i've put the task TS20000459 also selected both </div>
<div> checkbox named 'with business workflow' and 'with Auto determination of agent'.</div>
<div> Is there any specific config need to be done for 'Automatic determination of agent'? Where is what I missing :(.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Thanks a lot.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>-Nash</div>
<div><br><br> </div></span></div>
<div>
<div><span><span class="gmail_quote">On 12/11/06, <b class="gmail_sendername">Claude Bourque</b> <<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:cbourque@bank-banque-canada.ca" target="_blank">
cbourque@bank-banque-canada.ca</a>> wrote:</span> </span></div>
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<div><span><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">John,</font></span></div>
<div><span><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"></font></span> </div>
<div><span><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">I just noticed my typo for no 2. TS20000460 is the supervisor not the time admin.</font></span></div>
<div><span><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"></font></span> </div>
<div><span><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">Good luck.</font></span></div><span>
<div><span><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"></font></span> </div>
<div><span><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">Claude</font></span></div>
<div></div></span>
<div lang="en-us" dir="ltr" align="left"><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span>-----Original Message-----<br><b>From:</b> <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu" target="_blank">
sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu</a> [mailto:<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu" target="_blank">sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Nash John<br></span>
<div><span><b>Sent:</b> December 11, 2006 1:32 PM<br><b>To:</b> SAP Workflow Users' Group<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: CATS WORKFLOW<br><br></span></div></font></div></span></div>
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<div><span>
<div>Thanks Claude, i appreciate it.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>I'll work on it keeping in mind what ever you mentioned. of course I will get back to you if I run in to any issue(s) :).</div>
<div> </div>
<div>_nash john <br><br> </div></span></div>
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<div><span><span class="gmail_quote">On 12/11/06, <b class="gmail_sendername">Claude Bourque</b> <<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:cbourque@bank-banque-canada.ca" target="_blank">
cbourque@bank-banque-canada.ca </a>> wrote:</span> </span></div>
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<div><span><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">John,</font></span></div>
<div><span><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"></font></span> </div>
<div><span><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">SAP delivered 3 CATS approval TS's up to 4.7:</font></span></div>
<div><span><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"></font></span> </div>
<div><span><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">1. TS20000459: CATS approval by time administrator (time entry user as per Infotype 0001 on the employee file)</font></span></div>
<div><span><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">2. TS20000460: CATS approval by time administrator as per rule AC00000157</font></span></div>
<div><span><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">3. TS40007901: Pop-up when user is saving timesheet. User selects one of the possible agents.</font></span></div>
<div><span><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"></font></span> </div>
<div><span><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">Although I haven't played much with ECC 6.0, I do know that there are 3 new TS's.</font></span></div>
<div><span><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"></font></span> </div>
<div><span><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">4. TS31000006: A new version of TS20000459</font></span></div>
<div><span></span><span><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">5. TS31000007: A new version of TS20000460</font></span></div>
<div><span><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">6. TS31000004: A new version of TS40007901</font></span></div>
<div><span><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"></font></span> </div>
<div><span><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">Your config is still IMG: Cross-Application Components -> Time Sheet -> Specific Settings for CATS classic -> Set Up Data Entry Profiles (for R/3 use) or use Specific Settings for CATS regular (for ESS using CATW).
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<div><span><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"></font></span> </div>
<div><span><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">In the Data Entry Profile, select the With Approval Procedure option, check the box With SAPBusiness Workflow and in the task box called Task enter one of the 6 TS's listed above (or a copy of one of them as we did). It's this task that SAP_WAPI_START_WORKFLOW uses.
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<div><span><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"></font></span> </div>
<div><span><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">Starting in 4.7, you have the make the standard task a general task because even the data entry person has to be a possible agent otherwise you get an error upon saving.
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<div><span><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"></font></span> </div>
<div><span><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">Hope this helps.</font></span></div>
<div><span><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"></font></span> </div>
<div><span><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">Claude</font></span></div>
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<div lang="en-us" dir="ltr" align="left"><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span>-----Original Message-----<br><b>From:</b> <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu" target="_blank">
sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu</a> [mailto:<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu" target="_blank">sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Nash John<br></span><span>
<b>Sent:</b> December 11, 2006 11:00 AM<br><b>To:</b> SAP Workflow Users' Group<br></span><b>Subject:</b> Re: CATS WORKFLOW<br><br></font></div></span></div>
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<div><span>
<div>Thanks Claude. Like you said since the workflow is triggered by FM, can you tell what config need to be done(IMG). Can you please send me any documentation if you have since you have already worked on similar scenario.
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<div> </div>
<div>Again thanks a lot Claude.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>-nash john</div>
<div> </div>
<div><br><br> </div></span></div>
<div>
<div><span><span class="gmail_quote">On 12/11/06, <b class="gmail_sendername">Claude Bourque</b> <<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:cbourque@bank-banque-canada.ca" target="_blank">
cbourque@bank-banque-canada.ca </a>> wrote:</span> </span></div>
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<div><span><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">Not sure about ECC 6.0 but in good old Enterprise (4.7), the problem is that in the CATS Data Entry profile config (table TCATS), you have to insert the TS directly in a field. Thus, no WS, therefore, no easy way to do deadlines and other neat things offered by the WS.
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<div><span><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"></font></span> </div>
<div><span><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">We tried using a bogus TS that simply calls a WS but that seems to create other problems.</font></span></div>
<div><span><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"></font></span> </div>
<div><span><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">Debugging the CATS ABAP code reveals that SAP uses SAP_WAPI_START_WORKFLOW to start the workflow using the TS inserted in the TCATS table.</font></span></div>
<div><span><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"></font></span> </div>
<div><span><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">A CATS.CREATED event is also triggered in the code so you can't use that event since the TS is already started.</font></span></div>
<div><span><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"></font></span> </div>
<div><span><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">I can say that you can use your own rule to determine agents because we did and it works fine.</font></span></div>
<div><span></span> </div>
<div><span><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">Hopefully, I haven't put a damper on your initiative.</font></span></div>
<div><span><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2"></font></span> </div>
<div><span><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">Claude</font></span></div>
<div><span>
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<div lang="en-us" dir="ltr" align="left"><font face="Tahoma" size="2">-----Original Message-----<br><b>From:</b> <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu" target="_blank">
sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu</a> [mailto:<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu" target="_blank">sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Nash John<br><b>Sent:</b>
December 11, 2006 10:19 AM<br><b>To:</b> SAP Workflow Users' Group<br><b>Subject:</b> CATS WORKFLOW<br><br></font></div>Hi friends,<br><br>I've to do CATS approval workflow on ECC 6.0 and my functional asked me to look into WS40001001. One thing I noticed is that of the two tasks in the workflow one of the tasks TS20000495 is absolute; I mean it is not available in the system. Also at present we don't have org structure so I'm planning to write custom rule to determining agent from custom table. Does this approach helps?. This is quite urgent requirement hence client want it be done as soon as possible �not waiting for org structure to set up as it will take another 5 months for that.
<br><br>Can you tell me what is the business object to be used also is there any IMG config to be done?. If 'Yes' what are those. Points wll be awarded to all useful answers. Thanks a lot friends<br>-Nash </span></div>
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