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color=#0000ff size=2>Excuse me Jerry but yes they absolutely ARE linked to the
backend system. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2>In fact when you create a substitute through "Manage
Substitutions" it attempts to create the substitution in ALL linked backend
systems.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu
[mailto:sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu] <B>On Behalf Of </B>jerry
martinek<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, 03 March 2006 4:41 AM<BR><B>To:</B> SAP
Workflow Users' Group<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: RE: Subsitution and possible
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<P><B>Hi Baskaran,</B></P>
<P><STRONG>There is also the UWL based substitutions that are user/logon id
based and are not liked to the backend system.</STRONG></P>
<P><STRONG>Jerry</STRONG> </P>
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<P></P><B>From</B>: Rick Sample <Rick.Sample@gbe.com>
<P></P><B>Date</B>: Thursday, March 2, 2006 8:57 am
<P></P><B>Subject</B>: RE: Subsitution and possible agents
<P></P>
<P></P>> Baskaran, <BR>> Just to expand on this topic... <BR>> <BR>>
1. You can sub to anyone. <BR>> <BR>> 2. No authorization checks are made
until task is executed. <BR>> <BR>> 3. The substitute may or may not have
authorization for all tasks. <BR>> Here, you have <BR>> a few options that
you implement to ensure WF does not error out <BR>> and/oruser does not see
<BR>> certain tasks. Like HR WFs. <BR>> You can add "classifications" to
the tasks and users can <BR>> substitute ALL <BR>> tasks or just these
<BR>> specific classified tasks. <BR>> <BR>> If you do not use
classifications, you will need to ensure that all <BR>> sub'd WFs have auth
<BR>> checks (should be done anyway) and do something like display a message
<BR>> that user <BR>> does not have auth for task. <BR>> <BR>> Also,
two different types of substitutions exists. <BR>> 1. Personal substitution.
This is via UID and stored in HRUS_D2. <BR>> 2. Position substitution.
HRP1001 <BR>> <BR>> Dig around a bit and let me know if you have any more
questions. <BR>> There are reasons (which may not be readily apparent) why we
have <BR>> different types. <BR>> <BR>> rick <BR>> <BR>> <BR>>
>>> jocelyn.dart@sap.com 3/1/2006 23:57:02 >>> <BR>> Hi
Baskaran, <BR>> Yes that is correct functionality. If you were expecting
something <BR>> different then you haven't understood the substitution
process <BR>> correctly. <BR>> The point of substitution is to allow
someone to receive a work item <BR>> on <BR>> behalf of the original
recipient - so effectively they are an <BR>> "implicit" <BR>> possible
agent by their relationship to the original recipient. <BR>> <BR>>
Forwarding is of course a completely separate issue - as then the <BR>>
recipient receives the work item on their own behalf, not on <BR>> behalf of
<BR>> <BR>> someone else. <BR>> <BR>> Regards, <BR>> Jocelyn Dart
<BR>> Senior Consultant <BR>> SAP Australia Pty Ltd. <BR>> Level 1/168
Walker St. <BR>> North Sydney <BR>> NSW, 2060 <BR>> Australia <BR>>
T +61 412 390 267 <BR>> M + 61 412 390 267 <BR>> E jocelyn.dart@sap.com
<BR>> http://www.sap.com <" target="l">http://www.sap.com/> <BR>>
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<BR>> From: sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu [sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu] On <BR>>
Behalf <BR>> Of Baskaran Aluru <BR>> Sent: Thursday, 02 March 2006 2:07 PM
<BR>> To: SAP Workflow Users' Group <BR>> Subject: Subsitution and
possible agents <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Hi Everyone, <BR>> We have an
issue in 4.7 with substitution. A substitute agent is able <BR>> to execute
the workitem even though they do not belong to the possible <BR>> agents
list. No errors or warnings. Task has "Forwarding not <BR>> allowed" <BR>>
set, possible agents come from a Role, and the substitute is not <BR>>
assigned to that Role. <BR>> <BR>> Is this an authorization issue? Any
clues would be appreciated. <BR>> <BR>> TIA, <BR>> Baskaran. <BR>>
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