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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=525205821-12092005><FONT face=Tahoma
color=#ff0000 size=2>First of all, I just wanted to thank everyone for the
replies. The information was extremely helpful.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#ff0000 size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=525205821-12092005><FONT face=Tahoma
color=#ff0000 size=2>- Given 90% of our user base, if something isn't workflow
enabled it doesn't get done. Users venturing out to the application to do
it without workflow is not an issue. But, I understand the concerns
voiced.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=525205821-12092005><FONT face=Tahoma
color=#ff0000 size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=525205821-12092005><FONT face=Tahoma
color=#ff0000 size=2>- DBTABLOG was mentioned as a table to view. This is
great information that I was not aware of and will help us is in resolving
issues. However, our main issue is that we have an administrator
performing transactions for4-5 managers and there is really no accurate record
of whom the original recipient for a workitem was.
</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=525205821-12092005><FONT face=Tahoma
color=#ff0000 size=2>- Jocelyn Dart's email about the _RULE_RESULT
container element was exactly what I was looking for. The fact that is
available 6.20 and above helps further as I continue to beat the drum about need
for an upgrade (still on 4.5b).</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#ff0000 size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=525205821-12092005><FONT face=Tahoma
color=#ff0000 size=2>Thanks again...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=525205821-12092005><FONT face=Tahoma
color=#ff0000 size=2>Bob</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu
[mailto:sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Trant,
David<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, September 09, 2005 9:05 AM<BR><B>To:</B> SAP
Workflow Users' Group<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: Workflow Substitution
Report<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt">Thanks,
Jocelyn.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I missed the BW
announcement – that’s good news.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Though it will unfortunately be quite a while before we upgrade from
4.6C, it helps to know the direction SAP is taking so we can try to design
today’s new workflows now based on it.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>It’s good to know that more detailed information will be available in
future logs, and just as important that we’ll be able to offload that
information onto BW.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>That should
help the performance issues we have today due to huge table sizes, and make my
Basis colleagues much happier in the
process.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt">Thanks
again,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original
Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B>
sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu]<B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Dart, Jocelyn<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Friday, September 09, 2005 1:52
AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> SAP Workflow Users'
Group<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> RE: Workflow
Substitution Report</SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><![if !supportEmptyParas]><![endif]> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Bob,
</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I think the comments
from everybody are spot on and very useful. </SPAN></FONT><FONT
color=black><SPAN
style="COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=black size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black"> </SPAN></FONT><FONT
color=black><SPAN
style="COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Of course we do have BW
capability coming for Workflow as Alan Rickayzen announced a few weeks
ago. </SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN
style="COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=black size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black"> </SPAN></FONT><FONT
color=black><SPAN
style="COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">The workflow log does
give a process history of who did what / who made the decisions along the way to
getting the update and this can be valuable data in addition to the change
history of the application itself. There may be several people
involved in the decision process regardless of who made the final update to the
application. And of course whether workflow was used or not to affect the
update is useful information in itself. As we move up the releases the workflow
log is showing increasingly more specific information - e.g. current logs show
whether an item was forwarded by a user or by the workflow administrator.
</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN
style="COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black"> </SPAN></FONT><FONT
color=black><SPAN
style="COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Regarding the ability
to see if someone has acted as a substitute - a lot depends on your
release. If you are in a system running on a basis 6.20 or above (such as
R/3 Enterprise), then you may be able to use the _RULE_RESULT container element
to compare the actual agent with who was originally sent the work item.
</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN
style="COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">If you are in a lower
release things the _RULE_RESULT element is not available, and yes you will need
to rely heavily on table HRUS_D2 providing you make sure no-one deletes the old
entries (i.e. they should just set an end date, not delete the substitution).
</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN
style="COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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Workflow Substitution Report</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN
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are allowing users to create substitution rules in their workflow inboxes
usually a manager delegating to their admin. The issue we are having is that
auditors are requesting a report of workitems processed by each user and
additionally if a substitution rule was involved and whom it was performed on
behalf of.<BR><BR>Has anyone encountered similar requirements and how was it
satisfied?<BR><BR>Regards,<BR>Bob Schmidt </SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN
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