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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Thanks for the suggestion. The
problem with a secondary method is that its execution is not dependent upon the
outcome of the task method; it always executes. The trip can be approved,
rejected, or sent back for corrections, and the travel object’s APPROVE
method would be executed in any case.</span></font></p>
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sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu [mailto:sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Jeff Rappaport<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, August 12, 2005 1:00
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> SAP Workflow Users' Group<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: Synchronous Dialog
Chains and the UWL</span></font></p>
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face="Bookman Old Style"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";
color:blue'> Could you take the 2nd step Method & move it
into the 1st Step as an After execution Secondary Method?</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'>Jeffrey A. Rappaport<br>
Business Workflow, LLC<br>
Voice: (732) 355-0123<br>
Fax: (509) 757-4144<br>
Email: <a href="mailto:Jeff@Business-Workflow.com">Jeff@Business-Workflow.com</a><br>
Web: <a href="http://www.Business-Workflow.com">www.Business-Workflow.com</a></span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:Gregory.Utley@citrix.com" title="Gregory.Utley@citrix.com">Gregory
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href="mailto:sap-wug@mit.edu" title="sap-wug@mit.edu">sap-wug@mit.edu</a> </span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></font></b><font
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Synchronous
Dialog Chains and the UWL</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>All,</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>A question to all: We are soon
implementing the SAP Portal. For the most part, we’ve had no
problems with workflow applications in the portal environment, and the consolidation
of agent approval notifications in the UWL is an improvement over using system
dependent SBWP inboxes.</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>The one major downside for workflow
in the portal (specifically the UWL) is the loss of “synchronous dialog
chain” processing (OSS Notes 794439 and 487649). The standard SAP
travel expense workflow depends upon a two-step approval process (approve, then
update the employee master) via workflow. With the loss of synchronous
dialog processing, the “update” step goes into READY status in the
UWL instead of just executing automatically as it did before. The bottom
line: the approver must approve twice.</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I wrote a program that will run
periodically in background to identify these READY update tasks and trigger
them. This solves the problem (the approver only approves once), but
it’s not an optimum solution since it leaves the update task in the
approver’s UWL inbox until the background program runs.</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>If anyone else has run into this
problem and solved it in a more efficient way, I’d love to hear from you.</span></font></p>
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