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<DIV><SPAN class=531592015-05052005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Hi
Alon,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=531592015-05052005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>maybe
it's my experience. I've never heard about a workflow which takes such a
long time. 2 Years for one workitem is a sort of
"workwait".</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=531592015-05052005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Also
there are no technical reasons, I would separate the steps because there is so
much time between them. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=531592015-05052005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Greetings,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=531592015-05052005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Thomas
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size=2>-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----<BR><B>Von:</B> Alon Raskin
[mailto:sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu]<B>Im Auftrag von </B>Alon
Raskin<BR><B>Gesendet:</B> Donnerstag, 5. Mai 2005 15:59<BR><B>An:</B> SAP
Workflow Users' Group<BR><B>Betreff:</B> RE: 2 year wait vs Batch
Report<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>Hi Thomas,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial size=2>I appreciate your input but I was
wondering WHY you have this preference? Is it performance related? Or simply
past experience?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><STRONG>Alon Raskin</STRONG></DIV>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu on behalf of
Thomas Lorenz<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thu 5/5/2005 09:46<BR><B>To:</B> SAP Workflow
Users' Group<BR><B>Subject:</B> AW: 2 year wait vs Batch
Report<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=375294013-05052005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Hi
Alon,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=375294013-05052005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=375294013-05052005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>i
would prefer an additional ABAP Report to clear the field, which runs as Batch
once a day. In my opinion it makes little sense to keep these Workflows
for two years in "running" mode.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=375294013-05052005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Greetings,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=375294013-05052005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Thomas Lorenz</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2>-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----<BR><B>Von:</B> Alon Raskin
[mailto:sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu]<B>Im Auftrag von </B>Alon
Raskin<BR><B>Gesendet:</B> Donnerstag, 5. Mai 2005 14:53<BR><B>An:</B> SAP
Workflow Users' Group<BR><B>Betreff:</B> RE: 2 year wait vs Batch
Report<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Ram,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks for the input. My problem with
this approach is that I now have a batch job scheduled for each instance of
the workflow (around 400 or so)... I guess it not a big deal but I am not
sure I am seeing what the advantages of using this over the deadline
monitoring report...</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><STRONG>Alon Raskin</STRONG></DIV>
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href="mailto:araskin@3i-consulting.com"
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><STRONG>p: +61 3 9625 2189 (Head
Office)</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><STRONG>f: +61 3 8610 1239 </STRONG></DIV>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu on behalf of
Tiwari, Rammanohar<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thu 5/5/2005 08:49<BR><B>To:</B> SAP
Workflow Users' Group<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: 2 year wait vs Batch
Report<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=959333712-05052005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I
think there might be another option ( Not sure though
) :</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=959333712-05052005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Just after that step in your workflow put another step which will
schedule a Batch Job (FM BP_JOB_CREATE) with release date = sy-datum +
2 years.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2>I am not sure but system restart should not affect it.
</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=959333712-05052005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>The Batch job will then trigger an event ( after two years )
to re-start the terminated workflow.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=959333712-05052005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Thanks,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=959333712-05052005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Ram</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu
[mailto:sap-wug-bounces@mit.edu]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Alon
Raskin<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, May 05, 2005 5:26 PM<BR><B>To:</B> SAP
Workflow Users' Group<BR><B>Subject:</B> 2 year wait vs Batch
Report<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>Hi
Everyone,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial size=2>I would love to hear peoples opinions
on this issue.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial size=2>We have a situation where a workflow
has to do update a field and then wait for 2 years before clearing that
field. There are two possibilities to this issue.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial size=2>1. Put in a 2 year wait
step</FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial size=2>2. Terminate the workflow and run a
nightly batch job which would query some table and determine if 2 years
have passed and then reset the field accordingly.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial size=2>Currently I am leaning towards option
1 as I really don't see a difference in option 1 and option 2. Ultimately
they are all just batch jobs which check dates and then do some
processing. The volumes here are very low.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial size=2>Your thoughts?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><STRONG>Alon Raskin</STRONG></DIV>
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