[off-topic] Re: How to deactivate option to cancel User Decis ion

[Soady, Phil]

Thanks Mike,
I knew there was a reason why I keep  reading this List.
While ever it brings a smile ;-)
 
 
Phil Soady
Senior Consultant
Business Technologies
SAP Australia
M  +61 (0) 412 213 079
E  phil.soady at sap.com
 
-----Original Message-----
From: SAP Workflow [mailto:Owner-SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU] On Behalf Of Michael Pokraka
Sent: Friday,3 September 2004 10:30 PM
To: SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU
Subject: Re: [off-topic] Re: How to deactivate option to cancel User Decis ion
 
Also remember to also disable the 'close browser window' button. Oh, and the
shutdown feature in windows. Best to tape over the power button and glue the
power cord to the PC and wall socket.  :-)
Sorry, I have to side with Jocelyn on this one - it is a feature that
doens't really make sense to take away....
Cheers
Mike
 
Dart, Jocelyn wrote:
> No offence taken, Kjetil
> Actually you might have half a chance of turning it off in the UWL XML
> config - but the good doco on that is still internal unfortunately.
> Jocelyn
>
> -----Original Message-----
>> From: SAP Workflow [mailto:Owner-SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU] On Behalf Of Kjetil
> Kilhavn
> Sent: Friday,3 September 2004 5:45 PM
> To: SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU
> Subject: [off-topic] Re: How to deactivate option to cancel User Decision
>
> I don't disagree with you on your point, but no-one prevents the average
> user from using unreadable fonts in word processors...
>
> In fact, I have experienced just what you say. In one of solutions for
> reporting (cost object allocation among other things) we did not show the
> order level when documents were assigned via orders, we just displayed cost
> centres or WBS elements. Someone said this was hopeless, and everyone
> agreed that more information is better. All fine and dandy. A week after
> moving it to production we decided we had to change it and let the user
> select whether to display the order level or not.
>
> I didn't mean to make your day miserable, so I hope it was taken as the
> half-joke/half-serious comment that it was meant to be.
> The Microsoft way of thinking (in my opinion) is "we think our idea is
> better than any idea you might have so we will enforce it". I won't blame
> SAP of doing that with all the wild things you can customize in there, but
> this little thing is perhaps an exception. I do it myself too (but then
> again, I don't have neither thousands nor millions of customers all over
> the world), because I simply haven't considered that people might want
> things to function differently. In addition there is the customer ... they
> are (usually) not willing to pay for flexibility unless we solidly prove
> wide differences in user preferences.
> --
> Kjetil Kilhavn
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>                     "Dart, Jocelyn"
>                     <jocelyn.dart at sap.co        To:
> SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU
>                     m>                          cc:     (bcc: Kjetil
> Kilhavn)
>                     Sent by: SAP                Subject:     Re: How to
> deactivate option to cancel User Decision
>                     Workflow
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>                     03.09.2004 01:30
>                     Please respond to
>                     "SAP Workflow Users'
>                     Group"
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> Sorry - not what I meant.  It's just I've never seen a user who is always
> able to make a decision on the spot every single time they execute a work
> item so... I think if you take it away your next call will be from someone
> wanting it back again.
> Jocelyn
>
> -----Original Message-----
>> From: SAP Workflow [mailto:Owner-SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU] On Behalf Of
> Kjetil Kilhavn
> Sent: Wednesday,1 September 2004 9:55 PM
> To: SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU
> Subject: Re: How to deactivate option to cancel User Decision
>
> Sounding a bit like Microsoft there Jocelyn, if I may say so.... the bad
> old "we know best what is best for you and we will not give you the option
> of modifying it"
>
> As far as I know it is not possible to remove the Cancel button unless you
> want to get your hands really dirty. I looked into this at one time, and I
> think I found out is has to be added dynamically by the code for the user
> decision solution. The reason I complained was that the texts and
> translations (to Norwegian) are inconsistent. Inconsistencies in texts and
> translation is - according to the person who responded to my OSS message -
> not an error. Right...
> --
> Kjetil Kilhavn
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>                     "Dart, Jocelyn"
>                     <jocelyn.dart at sap.co        To:
> SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU
>                     m>                          cc:     (bcc: Kjetil
> Kilhavn)
>                     Sent by: SAP                Subject:     Re: How to
> deactivate option to cancel User Decision
>                     Workflow
>                     <Owner-SAP-WUG at MITVM
>                     A.MIT.EDU>
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>                     24.08.2004 01:58
>                     Please respond to
>                     "SAP Workflow Users'
>                     Group"
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> Ute,
> All the cancel button means is - "I can't deal with it now, leave the work
> item in my inbox".
> The users are going to need this.  You should not be hiding it.
> Rgds,
> Jocelyn
>
> -----Original Message-----
>> From: SAP Workflow [mailto:Owner-SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU] On Behalf Of
> "Schrvder, Ute Marion"
> Sent: Monday,23 August 2004 11:29 PM
> To: SAP-WUG at MITVMA.MIT.EDU
> Subject: How to deactivate option to cancel User Decision
>
> Hi workflow-gurus,
>
> might be a stupid question, anyway,
> I give it a try.
> I was asked whether it is possible to hide the cancelation-button in a user
> decision.
> I4ve definied two decisons, the system automatically generates the
> cancel-button.
> The Users in question don4t want that button.
>
> How can I hide this button?
> If so, can anyone please tell me where to look?
>
> Thanks a lot for your help.
>
> Ute
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