[panda-users] taint segmentation fault

xiaojuan Li xiaotan6666 at gmail.com
Mon Apr 20 08:07:27 EDT 2015


about the taint segfault, if you cannot download that .rr i upload before,
you can follow the step to reproduce:
1)use android studio to create avd, choose api21 target android 5.0.1 use
the default size;you can get the cache-img,sdcard.img,data.img and
system.img and then copy kernel-qemu & rmdisk.img from sdk/systemimg;
2)use pandaCovert.py to convert them and get the
(cache,data,system)-pandroid.qcow2 as well as kernel and initramfs;
3)use runpandroid.py(-m 512) to boot emulator;telnet and begin_record
4)run an app and input a string : end_record;
5)use qemu-system-arm to replay(-m 512) with the panda
plugins:stringsearch,tstringsearch;tainted_instr.(the search string .txt is
the string you input)

do you guys get the segfault ?
how can i fix it?
Thanks a lot!

2015-04-20 17:51 GMT+08:00 xiaojuan Li <xiaotan6666 at gmail.com>:

> excuse me, i have noticed that the ida_taint plugin:"win7 only but othre
> os could be easily added".
> i have installed ida pro in my system(debian),modified the ida_taint.bat
> with my ida path,when i use it :./ida_taint.bat name.json qemu-system-arm
> it failed. it seems not available in linux, is it?
> Thanks a lot!
>
>
> 2015-04-10 21:24 GMT-04:00 Brendan Dolan-Gavitt <brendandg at gatech.edu>:
>
> Once you have used PANDA's taint system to identify the portions of the
>> code that process the data you're interested in, you will still have to
>> analyze that code do understand how it works. One way to do that might be
>> to use the scissors plugin to extract out the portion of the trace that
>> contains the code you're interested in, and then replay it with QEMU's "-d
>> in_asm -D asmlog.txt" options to get the disassembly for that code.
>>
>> Alternatively, you could take a memory snapshot at some point when the
>> code you want to analyze is in memory (using something like the pmemsave
>> plugin in PANDA), then use Volatility to analyze that memory image to
>> extract out the binary, which you could look at in IDA or something similar.
>>
>> Basically – disassemble the code that handles the data you're interested
>> in and find out how it works. Exactly what that means will depend on what
>> you're hoping to accomplish.
>>
>> -Brendan
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 9:07 PM, xiaojuan Li <xiaotan6666 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> Thanks for your job first.
>>> I am a little confused about the result of the tainted.how can I get
>>> enough information about the processing code from the binary? use the gdb?
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> 2015-04-10 12:05 GMT+08:00 xiaojuan Li <xiaotan6666 at gmail.com>:
>>>
>>>> Thanks for your guys great work!
>>>> and I will try.
>>>>
>>>> 2015-04-10 11:42 GMT+08:00 Brendan Dolan-Gavitt <brendandg at gatech.edu>:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> Tim has just updated the tainted_instructions tutorial so that it
>>>>> reflects how things work now. Could you look through that tutorial and see
>>>>> if it helps with your problem?
>>>>>
>>>>> https://github.com/moyix/panda/blob/master/docs/tainted_instructions.md
>>>>>
>>>>> Note that you will probably need to do a "git pull" and rebuild (make
>>>>> clean ; ./build.sh) in order to make sure everything works as it says in
>>>>> the tutorial.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Brendan
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 9:30 AM, xiaojuan Li <xiaotan6666 at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Now that the panda taint.md is not fresh,can you guys give me some
>>>>>> help?
>>>>>> I use the replay plugin,here is my command and the result.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> the content of pk_search_strings.txt is :"sdt"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am confused here:in the paper— Repeatable reverse with panda:
>>>>>> :
>>>>>> it is clear that:if I use the stringsearch and taint plugin,when it
>>>>>> matches, the taint label will be put and then taint action will start.but
>>>>>> when I use it, it seems wrong(the picture showed before):no taint action
>>>>>> execute,and i am confused about the tstringsearch's result.
>>>>>> how can i use it to analysis?
>>>>>> Thanks a lot!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2015-04-08 10:14 GMT+08:00 xiaojuan Li <xiaotan6666 at gmail.com>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I get the replay file by running runandroid script. and i use
>>>>>>> qemu-system-arm command just to do some replay work.
>>>>>>> I may not understand you at all in this emal.do you mean that i
>>>>>>> should gdb the original program rather than the record file?
>>>>>>> Thansk
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2015-04-08 9:52 GMT+08:00 Brendan Dolan-Gavitt <brendandg at gatech.edu
>>>>>>> >:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hmm. gdb should normally stop when you get a segfault.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Are you by any chance running PANDA using the runandroid script? If
>>>>>>>> so, you will need to instead invoke PANDA manually, i.e.:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> gdb --args arm-softmmu/qemu-system-arm [...]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And then once it crashes, type "bt" at the gdb prompt to get a
>>>>>>>> backtrace.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -Brendan
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 9:47 PM, xiaojuan Li <xiaotan6666 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> when gdb,it shows:
>>>>>>>>> and then i see the log:it shows segfault:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2015-04-08 9:03 GMT+08:00 xiaojuan Li <xiaotan6666 at gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> maybe  i am wrong.
>>>>>>>>>>  i use the command
>>>>>>>>>> line:"taint2:label_mode=binary,query_outgoing_network=1"and I found that
>>>>>>>>>> when i use taint2, after it loads panda_taint2.so,it
>>>>>>>>>> shows:"taint2:instructed not to inline taint ops .success".
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2015-04-08 8:54 GMT+08:00 xiaojuan Li <xiaotan6666 at gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ok.
>>>>>>>>>>> 1.I want to use taint plugin to get information about some
>>>>>>>>>>> functions(of course, it is closed-source),so I think I can stringsearch
>>>>>>>>>>> potential data and then taint them and next I can locate the functions
>>>>>>>>>>> which solves these data.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 2.the command line I used is : stringsearch:name=***;
>>>>>>>>>>> taint2:tainted_instructions=1.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-04-08 8:40 GMT+08:00 Brendan Dolan-Gavitt <
>>>>>>>>>>> brendandg at gatech.edu>:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Could you provide:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. What information you're trying to get
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. The command line you're using to run PANDA with the taint2
>>>>>>>>>>>> plugin
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Right now I believe taint2 does not produce very much output by
>>>>>>>>>>>> default. Instead you use the -pandalog <filename> command line option, and
>>>>>>>>>>>> taint2 will write its results there in pandalog format; you can then read
>>>>>>>>>>>> them using pandalog_reader (see panda/pandalog_reader.c for details on that
>>>>>>>>>>>> tool).
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -Brendan
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 8:32 PM, xiaojuan Li <
>>>>>>>>>>>> xiaotan6666 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> when I tried taint2,it showed the same error with taint1, the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> olny difference is that taint2 has no segfault error,just uninit taint
>>>>>>>>>>>>> plugin.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-04-08 8:28 GMT+08:00 Brendan Dolan-Gavitt <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> brendandg at gatech.edu>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Could you be a little more descriptive about how it failed?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Segfault? Error message? Incorrect output?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Brendan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 8:27 PM, xiaojuan Li <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> xiaotan6666 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i tried taint2 too,it failed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015-04-07 5:20 GMT+08:00 Leek, Timothy - 0559 - MITLL <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tleek at ll.mit.edu>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also note that the “taint” plugin is somewhat defunct.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  “taint2” is the one we are actively using and developing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tim Leek
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Technical Staff
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cyber System Assessments
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MIT Lincoln Laboratory
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 781-981-2975
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Brendan Dolan-Gavitt <brendandg at gatech.edu>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Monday, April 6, 2015 at 5:18 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: xiaojuan Li <xiaotan6666 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cc: "panda-users at mit.edu" <panda-users at mit.edu>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [panda-users] taint segmentation fault
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Could you run that under gdb and provide us with a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> backtrace when it crashes?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Brendan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, April 5, 2015, xiaojuan Li <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> xiaotan6666 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> excuse me,i have a question about taint
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plugin:(stringsearch:name=***;taint:tainted_instructions=1)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when I started it showed success:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but when it finished search,it showd "uninit taint plugin
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> segementation fault"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how can I fix it?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks a lot!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wait and hope~~
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wait and hope~~
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wait and hope~~
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> wait and hope~~
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> wait and hope~~
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> wait and hope~~
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> wait and hope~~
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> wait and hope~~
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> wait and hope~~
>>>>
>>>
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>>> --
>>> wait and hope~~
>>>
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>
>
> --
> wait and hope~~
>



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