Feedback is online.<br><br><a href="http://openwetware.org/index.php?title=Special:Contact">http://openwetware.org/index.php?title=Special:Contact</a><br><br>I've set up the mailing list, forwarding mechanisms, email addresses, and a working email form to support OWW Feedback. The list and mail send support is online.
<br><br>Please note: There is still some additional information needed before the list is publicized at OWW. But the system is ready to roll. Follow the links in the OWW article referenced below to find the mailing list and add yourself to it.
<br><br>You can read about the details and get instructions on how to join the list here:<br><br><a href="http://openwetware.org/index.php?title=OpenWetWare:Software/Projects/Feedback">http://openwetware.org/index.php?title=OpenWetWare:Software/Projects/Feedback
</a><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><br><br>On Jan 15, 2008 7:39 PM, Julius B. Lucks <<a href="mailto:julius@younglucks.com">julius@younglucks.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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Can we have both - sending the comments to a mailing list, as well as being posted on the wiki. That way we can try out which one we like best.<div><br></div><div>I'll be happy to read the emails when the mailing list is set up.
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Here's an alternative that uses a technique Jason brought to my attention:<br><br><a href="http://openwetware.org/wiki/OpenWetWare:Feedback" target="_blank">http://openwetware.org/wiki/OpenWetWare:Feedback</a><br><br>
I need to get the correct mailing list name and it's done. We can clean it up later but it will work as soon as I get the mailing list set up. <br><br>As for where it is needs to be displayed, please let me know exactly where you want me to put it.
<br><br>Thanks.<br><br>B.<br><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Jan 15, 2008 2:01 PM, Julius B. Lucks <<a href="mailto:julius@younglucks.com" target="_blank"> julius@younglucks.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div> Sure - let's try it.<div><div><br><div> <span style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;">
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</div><div style="margin: 0px;"><br></div><br></span></span></span></span></span> </div><br></div><div><div></div><div><div><div>On Jan 15, 2008, at 10:56 AM, Bill F wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite"> I put a link on the page already But... I think it would be better to list the comments on the same page in this case.
<br><br>I can change the code so that the comment goes onto the page itself rather than onto the talk page. <br><br>Tell me if that works. If so, I can have it turned on in a few minutes.<br><br>B.<br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On Jan 15, 2008 1:51 PM, Julius B. Lucks <<a href="mailto:julius@younglucks.com" target="_blank"> julius@younglucks.com </a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div> Wow,<div><br></div><div>That is excellent! One thing - can we have a link to see all the comments from <a href="http://openwetware.org/wiki/OpenWetWare:Feedback" target="_blank">http://openwetware.org/wiki/OpenWetWare:Feedback
</a> - right now there is only leave a comment, but you would not be able to see all the comments if you don't leave one. </div><font color="#888888"><div><br></div><div>J</div></font><div><div><br><div> <span style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;">
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</div><div style="margin: 0px;"><br></div><br></span></span></span></span></span> </div><br></div><div><div></div><div><div><div>On Jan 15, 2008, at 10:49 AM, Bill F wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite"> Take a look at this page:
<br><br><a href="http://openwetware.org/wiki/OpenWetWare:Feedback" target="_blank">http://openwetware.org/wiki/OpenWetWare:Feedback</a><br> <br>I can add this to the toolbox when it does the right thing and looks right. <br>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Jan 15, 2008 1:42 PM, Bill F <<a href="mailto:bill.altmail@gmail.com" target="_blank">bill.altmail@gmail.com</a>> wrote: <br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
We can just create a page that has the tag in it and put a reference to the page in the toolbox for "Feedback". <br><br>Anyone who wants to can put the Talk page in your Watchlist and receive email notifications when they are created.
<br><br>Again, it's "<comments /> and not <comment />.<br><br>The syntax looks odd but it's XHTML compliant: the training " />" saves you from creating an open and closing tag like this: <comments></comments>.
<br><br>Let me put a demo page together and send a link. You can put anything you want into the rest of the page you want to deliver.<br><font color="#888888"><br>B.</font><div><div></div><div><br><br><br> <br><div class="gmail_quote">
On Jan 15, 2008 1:37 PM, Julius B. Lucks < <a href="mailto:julius@younglucks.com" target="_blank">julius@younglucks.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div> Hey Bill,<div><br></div><div>Would it be hard to make a link in the navigation bar that inserted the <comment/> tag into the page that the user was viewing?</div><font color="#888888"><div><br></div><div>Julius
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</div><div style="margin: 0px;"><br></div><br></span></span></span></span></span> </div><br></div><div><div></div><div><div><div>On Jan 15, 2008, at 10:33 AM, Bill F wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite"> I just downloaded and installed a comment tag that may be of use.
<br><br>To try it add the following tag to any OWW page:<br><br><comment /><br><br>See what you think. <br><br>This is a starting point. Ican change the code to either send an email message to a specific address or to add the comment to another page besides the one the tag is located upon.
<br><br>Thanks.<br><br><br>B.<br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Jan 15, 2008 12:16 PM, Julius B. Lucks <<a href="mailto:julius@younglucks.com" target="_blank">julius@younglucks.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div> Hey Mike,<div><br></div><div>Good points. An email comment/suggestion box would already be a huge step forward, and might be the simplest thing to start off with. We can always reply to individual emails, and we can gradually evolve the system into an email-based discussion board/list in the future.
</div><div><br></div><div>We can also start a wiki-based page, but given how unwieldily long discussions are on the wiki, this might not be the best, especially for a new user who is hesitant to edit the wiki.</div><div>
<br> </div><div>Of course, in the presence of no user-feedback on which one is best, we should do both!</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><font color="#888888"><div><br></div><div>Julius</div><div><br></div></font><div>
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<br></div><div style="margin: 0px;">This is a great idea, but how we implement feedback should depend on what</div><div style="margin: 0px;">we expect out of it. Email might be the easiest way to go, but submitters</div>
<div style="margin: 0px;"> would not necessarily be expecting a response--more of a comment or</div><div style="margin: 0px;">suggestion box in that case. If we're looking to start a discussion with</div><div style="margin: 0px;">
the user, perhaps a thread similar to the "Help" page would be useful. </div><div style="margin: 0px; min-height: 14px;"><br></div><div style="margin: 0px;">Mike</div><div style="margin: 0px; min-height: 14px;">
<br></div><div style="margin: 0px; min-height: 14px;"><br></div><div style="margin: 0px;"> On Tue, 15 Jan 2008, Julius B. Lucks wrote:</div><div style="margin: 0px; min-height: 14px;"><br></div> <blockquote type="cite"><div style="margin: 0px;">
Hi SC,</div><div style="margin: 0px; min-height: 14px;"><br></div><div style="margin: 0px;"> We really need some way for an average user to give feedback to the SC about</div><div style="margin: 0px;">how to make OWW better, how they currently use it, etc.
<span> </span>Outside of the</div><div style="margin: 0px;"> survey, or someone finding the steering committee page on their own, there is</div><div style="margin: 0px;">really no mechanism to get general community feedback on how we are doing, and
</div><div style="margin: 0px;">which direction we should take next. <span> </span>I am hoping that as the SC blog is used</div><div style="margin: 0px;">more regularly, there will be useful comments on the posts, but I don't think
</div><div style="margin: 0px;">that is enough.</div><div style="margin: 0px; min-height: 14px;"> <br></div><div style="margin: 0px;">How about some sort of 'Feedback' link in the navigation bar?<span> </span>That way it can
</div><div style="margin: 0px;">be seen on every page so that people reaching OWW from Google for example can </div><div style="margin: 0px;">still give feedback.<span> </span>The link ideally would point to some sort of discussion
</div><div style="margin: 0px;">forum with topic threads etc., but for now should just bring up some page that </div><div style="margin: 0px;">a user could fill in to email <a href="mailto:feedback@openwetware.org" target="_blank">
feedback@openwetware.org</a> for example (email</div><div style="margin: 0px;">being simpler for newer users than editing the wiki). </div><div style="margin: 0px; min-height: 14px;"><br></div><div style="margin: 0px;">What do you think?
</div><div style="margin: 0px; min-height: 14px;"><br></div><div style="margin: 0px;">Cheers,</div><div style="margin: 0px; min-height: 14px;"> <br></div><div style="margin: 0px;">Julius</div><div style="margin: 0px; min-height: 14px;">
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