so shall I tell them that we'll get back to them after the next SC meeting?<br>John<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 6/26/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Ilya Sytchev</b> <<a href="mailto:ilyas@mit.edu">ilyas@mit.edu
</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">I just not sure if OWW should collaborate with entities that are not<br>
open access (making available only part of information doesn't count, in<br>my opinion) but I guess this is something to discuss at the next SC meeting.<br><br>Ilya<br><br>Sri Kosuri wrote:<br>><br>> The Cited-by counts Web service is already available today for all
<br>> publishers, but in April the service will be enhanced to great<br>> benefit to ensure that users that enter Scopus but are not<br>> subscribed to Scopus - are still able to see the bibliographic
<br>> details on Scopus. More information is available in the attachment.<br>><br>><br>><br>> See above quote from the original email... and the attachment.<br>> Apparently they are developing the means to make at least the
<br>> bibliography part of the information available to all.<br>><br>> Sri<br>><br>><br>> On 6/26/07, *Ilya Sytchev* <<a href="mailto:ilyas@mit.edu">ilyas@mit.edu</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:ilyas@mit.edu">
ilyas@mit.edu</a>>> wrote:<br>><br>> Just a general thought: they are not open to public and require an<br>> institutional subscription which is the opposite of open access. From<br>> their main page:
<br>><br>> "Unfortunately you don't have institutional access to Scopus, the<br>> largest abstract and citation database of research literature and<br>> quality web sources with smart tools to track, analyze and visualize
<br>> research.<br>> ...<br>> The Register link doesn't give you access to Scopus. If your institute<br>> has subscribed to Scopus, this box allows you to set up a user profile<br>> from within your institute's IP range."
<br>><br>><br>> John Cumbers wrote:<br>> > I guess that it is time for a larger discussion of the way we<br>> > collaborate with publishers on oww. (at the next sc meeting?) It<br>> could
<br>> > probably not hurt to see a demo of this working though, we could<br>> always<br>> > link to scholar, cite-base and theirs. I can contact him we want<br>> this,<br>> > ask to see a demo, and table the decision until our next meeting?
<br>> ><br>> > John<br>> ><br>> ><br>> > On 6/26/07, *Julius Lucks* <<a href="mailto:lucks@fas.harvard.edu">lucks@fas.harvard.edu</a><br>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:lucks@fas.harvard.edu">
lucks@fas.harvard.edu</a>><br>> > <mailto: <a href="mailto:lucks@fas.harvard.edu">lucks@fas.harvard.edu</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:lucks@fas.harvard.edu">lucks@fas.harvard.edu</a>>>> wrote:<br>
> ><br>> > Sounds like they want us to drive a lot of users their way. I am<br>> > not a big fan of Elsevier personally, and am not too keen on<br>> driving<br>> > our users in their direction. The idea is neat though. Isn't
<br>> > Cite-Base somewhat of an open alternative? Perhaps we could do<br>> > something similar with them?<br>> ><br>> > Julius<br>> ><br>> ><br>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
<br>> > <a href="http://www.openwetware.org/wiki/User:Julius_B._Lucks">http://www.openwetware.org/wiki/User:Julius_B._Lucks</a><br>> <<a href="http://www.openwetware.org/wiki/User:Julius_B._Lucks">
http://www.openwetware.org/wiki/User:Julius_B._Lucks</a>><br>> ><br>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>> ><br>> ><br>> > On Jun 26, 2007, at 8:55 AM, Sri Kosuri wrote:
<br>> ><br>> >> Scopus (a project of Elsevier) has sent the following request.<br>> >> What do people think generally?<br>> >><br>> >> Publishing Chairs: Care to follow this up?
<br>> >><br>> >> Sri<br>> >><br>> >> ---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>> >> From: *Kersten, Fabian (ELS-AMS)* < <a href="mailto:F.Kersten@elsevier.com">
F.Kersten@elsevier.com</a><br>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:F.Kersten@elsevier.com">F.Kersten@elsevier.com</a>><br>> >> <mailto:<a href="mailto:F.Kersten@elsevier.com">F.Kersten@elsevier.com</a>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:F.Kersten@elsevier.com">F.Kersten@elsevier.com</a>>>><br>> >> Date: Jun 25, 2007 5:19 AM<br>> >> Subject: Integrate Scopus cited by counts on your platform
<br>> >> To: <a href="mailto:skosuri@mit.edu">skosuri@mit.edu</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:skosuri@mit.edu">skosuri@mit.edu</a>> <mailto:<br>> <a href="mailto:skosuri@mit.edu">skosuri@mit.edu
</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:skosuri@mit.edu">skosuri@mit.edu</a>>><br>> >><br>> >><br>> >> Dear Sri,<br>> >><br>> >> I have found your contact details on the
<a href="http://openwetware.org">openwetware.org</a><br>> <<a href="http://openwetware.org">http://openwetware.org</a>><br>> >> < <a href="http://openwetware.org">http://openwetware.org</a>
> website and would like to get in touch<br>> >> with you to see if you might be interested in a new service on<br>> >> your platform. My name is Fabian Kersten and I am marketing<br>> manage
<br>> >> r for Scopus (_www.scopus.com _ ). Scopus start ed rolling out<br>> >> free Web service that allows you to place highly accurate<br>> Cited-by<br>> >> counts on your site using the Scopus engine in April. I believe
<br>> >> this service could be an interesting addition to your platform as<br>> >> it offers your users a way to assess the article in the<br>> context of<br>> >> the citations it has received.
<br>> >><br>> >> Both the precision (>99.2%) and the recall (97.8%) of the Scopus<br>> >> citation information are industry-leading. With all references<br>> >> from
15.000 journals included since 1996, linked references for<br>> >> all but historical (older than say 12 years) articles will be as<br>> >> complete as they can be. The Cited-by count is provided real time
<br>> >> and will include a link to the bibliographic details on Scopus (<br>> >> i.e. the list of articles that make up the Cited-by count). The<br>> >> Cited-by counts Web service is already available today for all
<br>> >> publishers, but in April the service will be enhanced to great<br>> >> benefit to ensure that users that enter Scopus but are not<br>> >> subscribed to Scopus - are still able to see the bibliographic
<br>> >> details on Scopus. More information is available in the<br>> attachment.<br>> >><br>> >> <<3Publisher_integration.doc>><br>> >> If you are interested I would like to explore a possible
<br>> >> collaboration between us. Are you the right person to have<br>> initial<br>> >> discussion with? If not, can you please refer me to the most<br>> >> appropriate person within your organization?
<br>> >><br>> >> I look forward to hearing from you soon.<br>> >><br>> >> Best regards,<br>> >> Fabian<br>> >> * _______________________________________________*
<br>> >> *Fabian Kersten<br>> >> *Marketing Manager<br>> >> *Scopus<br>> >><br>> >> *Elsevier B.V. Radarweg 29,<br>> >> 1043 NX Amsterdam, The Netherlands
<br>> >> T: +31 (0)20 485 2547<br>> >> F: +31 20 485 3354<br>> >> @: f.kersten@ <a href="http://elsevier.com">elsevier.com</a> <<a href="http://elsevier.com">http://elsevier.com
</a>><br>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:f.kersten@elsevier.com">f.kersten@elsevier.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:f.kersten@elsevier.com">f.kersten@elsevier.com</a>>><br>> >><br>> >>
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