<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; "><DIV>OWW SC,</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>I wanted to send this along to the OWW SC and my guess is that many of the people emailed below haven't had time to respond, and it provides a interesting use case.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Best,</DIV><DIV>Drew<BR><DIV><BR><DIV>Begin forwarded message:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" color="#000000" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><B>From: </B></FONT><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">"James Hadfield" <<A href="mailto:James.Hadfield@cancer.org.uk">James.Hadfield@cancer.org.uk</A>></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" color="#000000" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><B>Date: </B></FONT><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">November 1, 2006 11:50:13 AM EST</FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" color="#000000" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><B>To: </B></FONT><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica"><<A href="mailto:endy@mit.edu">endy@mit.edu</A>>, <<A href="mailto:tk@csail.mit.edu">tk@csail.mit.edu</A>>, <<A href="mailto:pamela_silver@hms.harvard.edu">pamela_silver@hms.harvard.edu</A>>, <<A href="mailto:rshetty@mit.edu">rshetty@mit.edu</A>>, <<A href="mailto:nkuldell@mit.edu">nkuldell@mit.edu</A>></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" color="#000000" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><B>Subject: </B></FONT><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica"><B>OWW DNA ligation and nature methods article...</B></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class="854020816-01112006"><FONT face="Arial" size="2">Dear All,</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class="854020816-01112006"> <FONT face="Arial" size="2">I am writing to you as I want to reference the DNA ligation protocol in the Nature methods article I am putting together (<A href="http://openwetware.org/wiki/Jamesh008:nature_methods_article">http://openwetware.org/wiki/Jamesh008:nature_methods_article</A>). See the email I sent to Sri below for more detail.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class="854020816-01112006"> <FONT face="Arial" size="2">Basically I would like to exchange my DNA ligation 'consensus' protocol (<A href="http://openwetware.org/wiki/Jamesh008:consensus_DNA_ligation_protocol">http://openwetware.org/wiki/Jamesh008:consensus_DNA_ligation_protocol</A>) for the DNA ligation protocol on the front page (<A href="http://openwetware.org/wiki/DNA_Ligation">http://openwetware.org/wiki/DNA_Ligation</A>). It has been written to the 'consensus' protocol style I think will work best and as described in the NM article. It is different from the current DNA ligation protocol and you are all involved in creating that or the lab specific ones. As such I would very much like your input.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class="854020816-01112006"> <FONT face="Arial" size="2">Get back to me if you have questions or better still. Edit the article and consensus protocol pages (<A href="http://openwetware.org/wiki/User:Jamesh008">http://openwetware.org/wiki/User:Jamesh008</A>).</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class="854020816-01112006"> <FONT face="Arial" size="2">James.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV align="left"><FONT face="Arial" size="2">James Hadfield</FONT></DIV> <DIV align="left"><FONT face="Arial" size="2">CRI Genomics Core</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Arial" size="2"></FONT> </DIV> <DIV align="left"><FONT face="Arial" size="2">Cancer Research UK</FONT></DIV> <DIV align="left"><FONT face="Arial" size="2">Cambridge Research Institute</FONT></DIV> <DIV align="left"><FONT face="Arial" size="2">Robinson Way, Cambridge CB2 0RE</FONT></DIV> <DIV align="left"><FONT face="Arial" size="2">Tel: +44 (0)1223 404250</FONT></DIV> <DIV align="left"><FONT face="Arial" size="2">Fax: +44 (0)1223 404208</FONT></DIV> <DIV align="left"><FONT face="Arial" size="2">Mob: +44(0)7879 844167</FONT></DIV> <DIV align="left"><FONT face="Arial" size="2">email: <A href="mailto:james.hadfield@cancer.org.uk">james.hadfield@cancer.org.uk</A></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Arial" size="2"></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size="2"><P>-----Original Message-----</P><P>From: James Hadfield </P><P>Sent: 30 October 2006 11:59</P><P>To: 'Sri Kosuri'; 'OpenWetWare Admin'</P><P>Subject: FW: Decision on presubmission inquiry NMETH-PI03027</P><P>Dear Sri,</P><P>Please pass this message on to the OWW steering committee. I have a couple of specific questions I would like the steering committee to answer at the bottom.</P><P>I have been very happy to contribute to OWW. I first came across the site when I wanted to get a template for Nature Methods: methods articles to use in our lab as a standard protocol format. Nature declined citing copyright reasons.</P><P>OWW will be the standard in my lab and I am doing my best to convince the CRI management on the ease and usefulness of the Wiki approach. It may be that we host something internally rather than on OWW (I know there are discussions ongoing within OWW about private wikis).</P> </FONT><P><FONT size="2">I have been looking at what I termed a 'consensus protocol' as the standard protocol for a new scientist to use. See </FONT><A href="http://openwetware.org/wiki/Jamesh008:consensus_protocol"><U><FONT color="#0000ff" size="2">http://openwetware.org/wiki/Jamesh008:consensus_protocol</FONT></U><FONT color="#0000ff" size="2"></FONT></A><FONT size="2"> for more info. This is something I will certainly be working on formalising over the next weeks and months.</FONT></P><FONT size="2"> </FONT><P><FONT size="2">While thinking about this I made a presubmission enquiry to Nature Methods about OWW, specifically protocols and consensus protocols and they have asked me to write a brief correspondence article. When I made the enquiry I made it quite clear to the editor that although this was going to be written by me it would also be co-written and edited by the OWW community. They have accepted this as OK. I have started with an abstract but as this is a brief correspondence there will not be an abstract, just the article </FONT><A href="http://openwetware.org/wiki/Jamesh008:nature_methods_article"><U><FONT color="#0000ff" size="2">http://openwetware.org/wiki/Jamesh008:nature_methods_article</FONT></U><FONT color="#0000ff" size="2"></FONT></A><FONT size="2">.</FONT></P><FONT size="2"><P>I would like to submit this by the middle of November.</P><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><P>Questions:</P><P>Is the steering committee happy for me to proceed?</P><P>Is authorship OK?</P><P>Is the format OK?</P><P>Is the submission date OK?</P><P>I suggested that three OWW steering committee members 'sign off' the article as ready to submit. Perhaps it would be easier to get people to add comments to the discussion page before November 10th with a provisional submission date of November 17th?</P><P>Consensus protocols would really need an editor. I would suggest the editor is self nominated. They would be responsible for updating the protocol and authorising general edits?</P><DIV> <BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV> <BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><P>I hope this is a very good way of advertising OWW to a more general audience. Perhaps you (we) should think a bit more about how to show the labs on the front page before lots more people sign up.</P><P>James.</P><P>PS: please add me to the steering committee.</P><P>James Hadfield</P><P>CRI Genomics Core</P><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><P>Cancer Research UK</P><P>Cambridge Research Institute</P><P>Robinson Way, Cambridge CB2 0RE</P><P>Tel: +44 (0)1223 404250</P><P>Fax: +44 (0)1223 404208</P><P>Mob: +44(0)7879 844167</P><P>email: <A href="mailto:james.hadfield@cancer.org.uk">james.hadfield@cancer.org.uk</A></P><P>-----Original Message-----</P> </FONT><P><FONT size="2">From: <A href="mailto:v.kiermer@natureny.com">v.kiermer@natureny.com</A> [</FONT><A href="mailto:v.kiermer@natureny.com"><U><FONT color="#0000ff" size="2">mailto:v.kiermer@natureny.com</FONT></U><FONT color="#0000ff" size="2"></FONT></A><FONT size="2">]</FONT></P><FONT size="2"><P>Sent: 27 October 2006 20:55</P><P>To: James Hadfield</P><P>Subject: Decision on presubmission inquiry NMETH-PI03027</P><P>27th Oct 2006 </P><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><P>Dear Mr Hadfield, </P><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><P>Thank you for your inquiry about submitting your manuscript entitled "OpenWetWare Protocols: an open-access online protocol resource for everyone." to Nature Methods. The topic you propose to discuss is potentially an important resource for the community and our readership in particular. As such, it could be suitable for our Correspondence section. </P><P>We will be happy to consider for publication a brief Correspondence (no more than 400 words). </P><P>Of course, it is very difficult to make a definitive judgment about any manuscript based only on the limited information available in a presubmission inquiry. Therefore I am sure you will understand that we cannot make any specific promises until we have read it in its entirety. </P><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><P>Again, thank you for your interest in Nature Methods, and I look forward to reading your manuscript. </P><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><P>Sincerely, </P><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><P>Veronique Kiermer, PhD</P><P>Editor</P><P>Nature Methods </P><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><P>This email has been sent through the NPG Manuscript Tracking System NY-610A-NPG&MTS.</P></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></DIV></BODY></HTML>