From jasonk at MIT.EDU  Fri Feb  1 14:43:52 2008
From: jasonk at MIT.EDU (Jason Kelly)
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 14:43:52 -0500
Subject: [OWW-SC] Reminder: SC meeting today (TH) at Noon EST
Message-ID: <7c085c480802011143j68e54a27i15c44c76b78a0685@mail.gmail.com>

hey SC,

Reminder that the SC meeting is coming up on the 1st TH of the month
(2/7) at Noon EST.

Chairs fill in your reports here:
http://openwetware.org/wiki/OpenWetWare:Steering_committee/Meeting_-_February_2008

Please add items to the agenda:
http://openwetware.org/wiki/OpenWetWare:Steering_committee_next_meeting

Or take a look at action list from last month for left over to-do items.
http://openwetware.org/wiki/OpenWetWare:Steering_committee_actions

Number is 617-324-7520, and contact austin if you want to use sip.

Thanks!
jason


From johncumbers at gmail.com  Sun Feb  3 22:51:05 2008
From: johncumbers at gmail.com (John Cumbers)
Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 19:51:05 -0800
Subject: [OWW-SC] What would be your top 5 priorities from a new style
	publishing system?
Message-ID: <cfd758050802031951r24c37e73mff07b230222f40d0@mail.gmail.com>

What would be your top 5 priorities from a new style publishing system
<http://feeds.feedburner.com/%7Er/Openwetware/%7E3/228683481/>OWW Style?
Please add yours on-line and join the teleconference on Wed if you are
interested,
Best,
John


-- 
John Cumbers,  Graduate Student
Molecular Biology, Cell Biology, and Biochemistry
Biology and Medicine
Brown University, Box G-W
Providence, Rhode Island, 02912, USA
Tel USA: +1 401 523 8190,  Fax: +1 401 863-2166
UK to USA: 0207 617 7824
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From rshetty at MIT.EDU  Mon Feb  4 12:30:02 2008
From: rshetty at MIT.EDU (Reshma Shetty)
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 12:30:02 -0500
Subject: [OWW-SC] meetings between Lorrie and SC members
Message-ID: <6e9f40380802040930u2271e328n63ba54bd0d412dc6@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

OpenWetWare's new managing director, Lorrie LeJeune, has started
today.  To help Lorrie get to know some folks in the community and to
get her up to speed on what folks have been thinking about, we'd like
to have Lorrie speak to various folks one on one regarding the
different initiatives going on at OWW (courses, publishing, outreach,
notebook, iGEM, blogs, etc.).  I think that these conversations would
give Lorrie a nice opportunity to get a feel for the diversity of
thoughts re the site.

Could any folks interested in speaking with Lorrie email her directly
and set up a phone call/video conference/meeting with her to chat some
time this week or next?

Lorrie (cc'ed above) can be reached at lorrie at openwetware.org.

Thanks,

Reshma


From austin at csail.mit.edu  Mon Feb  4 17:01:44 2008
From: austin at csail.mit.edu (Austin Che)
Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 17:01:44 -0500
Subject: [OWW-SC] new user list
Message-ID: <87lk608jp3.fsf@nitsua.mit.edu>


    I think it would be nice to add the following dynamically
    generated list to the front page to see a rolling list of new
    users. It would allow people to welcome new users and it might
    also encourage people to edit their user page if they see their
    name on the front page.
    http://openwetware.org/wiki/Talk:UserPageDefaultContentText
    
-- 
Austin Che           <austin at csail.mit.edu>          (617)253-5899


From jennytnguyen at gmail.com  Mon Feb  4 17:03:05 2008
From: jennytnguyen at gmail.com (Jenny Nguyen)
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 16:03:05 -0600
Subject: [OWW-SC] new user list
In-Reply-To: <87lk608jp3.fsf@nitsua.mit.edu>
References: <87lk608jp3.fsf@nitsua.mit.edu>
Message-ID: <cf36c28d0802041403h116aa442h89a036be29c4aa14@mail.gmail.com>

I like this idea!

On Feb 4, 2008 4:01 PM, Austin Che <austin at csail.mit.edu> wrote:

>
>    I think it would be nice to add the following dynamically
>    generated list to the front page to see a rolling list of new
>    users. It would allow people to welcome new users and it might
>    also encourage people to edit their user page if they see their
>    name on the front page.
>    http://openwetware.org/wiki/Talk:UserPageDefaultContentText
>
> --
> Austin Che           <austin at csail.mit.edu>          (617)253-5899
> _______________________________________________
> OpenWetWare Steering Committee Mailing List
> sc at openwetware.org
> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/oww-sc
>
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From ilyas at MIT.EDU  Mon Feb  4 17:14:30 2008
From: ilyas at MIT.EDU (Ilya Sytchev)
Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 17:14:30 -0500
Subject: [OWW-SC] new user list
In-Reply-To: <cf36c28d0802041403h116aa442h89a036be29c4aa14@mail.gmail.com>
References: <87lk608jp3.fsf@nitsua.mit.edu>
	<cf36c28d0802041403h116aa442h89a036be29c4aa14@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <47A78E46.9020804@mit.edu>

That's a great idea - it would provide a better sense of community. 
I've seen similar features on several social networking sites.

Ilya

Jenny Nguyen wrote:
> I like this idea!
> 
> On Feb 4, 2008 4:01 PM, Austin Che <austin at csail.mit.edu 
> <mailto:austin at csail.mit.edu>> wrote:
> 
> 
>        I think it would be nice to add the following dynamically
>        generated list to the front page to see a rolling list of new
>        users. It would allow people to welcome new users and it might
>        also encourage people to edit their user page if they see their
>        name on the front page.
>        http://openwetware.org/wiki/Talk:UserPageDefaultContentText
> 
>     --
>     Austin Che           <austin at csail.mit.edu
>     <mailto:austin at csail.mit.edu>>          (617)253-5899
>     _______________________________________________
>     OpenWetWare Steering Committee Mailing List
>     sc at openwetware.org <mailto:sc at openwetware.org>
>     http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/oww-sc
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> _______________________________________________
> OpenWetWare Steering Committee Mailing List
> sc at openwetware.org
> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/oww-sc


From vincent.rouilly at gmail.com  Mon Feb  4 17:21:56 2008
From: vincent.rouilly at gmail.com (Vincent Rouilly)
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 22:21:56 +0000
Subject: [OWW-SC] new user list
In-Reply-To: <cf36c28d0802041403h116aa442h89a036be29c4aa14@mail.gmail.com>
References: <87lk608jp3.fsf@nitsua.mit.edu>
	<cf36c28d0802041403h116aa442h89a036be29c4aa14@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4E60E79F-A14D-4695-9E89-0F78DE36DBEB@gmail.com>


I agree, it is a great idea.

I would love to get a better feel for the OWW community activity from  
the front page.
I mostly used the recent changes at the moment.

maybe dynamically updated things like:
- 5 most active pages over the last 7 days (get an idea of the  
current hot topics)
- 5 most visited pages over the last 7 days
- 5 latest categories used
- 5 latest users logged-in
- maybe a user of the month (great incentive to have a polish user  
page :) )
- google map with OWW users (already discussed in the past)
- 5 Latest keyword used in searches
- ...

Vincent.



On 4 Feb 2008, at 22:03, Jenny Nguyen wrote:

> I like this idea!
>
> On Feb 4, 2008 4:01 PM, Austin Che <austin at csail.mit.edu> wrote:
>
>    I think it would be nice to add the following dynamically
>    generated list to the front page to see a rolling list of new
>    users. It would allow people to welcome new users and it might
>    also encourage people to edit their user page if they see their
>    name on the front page.
>    http://openwetware.org/wiki/Talk:UserPageDefaultContentText
>
> --
> Austin Che           <austin at csail.mit.edu>          (617)253-5899
> _______________________________________________
> OpenWetWare Steering Committee Mailing List
> sc at openwetware.org
> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/oww-sc
>
> _______________________________________________
> OpenWetWare Steering Committee Mailing List
> sc at openwetware.org
> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/oww-sc

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From rshetty at MIT.EDU  Mon Feb  4 18:08:20 2008
From: rshetty at MIT.EDU (Reshma Shetty)
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 18:08:20 -0500
Subject: [OWW-SC] new user list
In-Reply-To: <4E60E79F-A14D-4695-9E89-0F78DE36DBEB@gmail.com>
References: <87lk608jp3.fsf@nitsua.mit.edu>
	<cf36c28d0802041403h116aa442h89a036be29c4aa14@mail.gmail.com>
	<4E60E79F-A14D-4695-9E89-0F78DE36DBEB@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6e9f40380802041508n5df474c4m8bc42d7b0b5a64e8@mail.gmail.com>

Hey all,

Since there seemed to be general support for the idea of a new user
list on the main page, I went ahead and rolled it out.  Take a look.

Also Vincent, I think that some/all of your suggestions are possible
using the dynamic page list extension that is already available on
OWW.  It is just very non-intuitive to use so figuring out the right
syntax can be challenging.

Check out http://semeb.com/dpldemo/index.php?title=Example_3#Varying_font_size_based_on_popularity

It allows you to create a list of articles where the font size of the
article name depends on the number of times that article has been
viewed.  I'll try to play around with it later to see what happens.

-Reshma

On Feb 4, 2008 5:21 PM, Vincent Rouilly <vincent.rouilly at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> I agree, it is a great idea.
>
> I would love to get a better feel for the OWW community activity from the
> front page.
> I mostly used the recent changes at the moment.
>
> maybe dynamically updated things like:
> - 5 most active pages over the last 7 days (get an idea of the current hot
> topics)
> - 5 most visited pages over the last 7 days
> - 5 latest categories used
> - 5 latest users logged-in
> - maybe a user of the month (great incentive to have a polish user page :) )
> - google map with OWW users (already discussed in the past)
> - 5 Latest keyword used in searches
> - ...
>
> Vincent.
>
>
>
>
>
> On 4 Feb 2008, at 22:03, Jenny Nguyen wrote:
> I like this idea!
>
> On Feb 4, 2008 4:01 PM, Austin Che <austin at csail.mit.edu> wrote:
> >
> >    I think it would be nice to add the following dynamically
> >    generated list to the front page to see a rolling list of new
> >    users. It would allow people to welcome new users and it might
> >    also encourage people to edit their user page if they see their
> >    name on the front page.
> >    http://openwetware.org/wiki/Talk:UserPageDefaultContentText
> >
> > --
> > Austin Che           <austin at csail.mit.edu>          (617)253-5899
> > _______________________________________________
> > OpenWetWare Steering Committee Mailing List
> > sc at openwetware.org
> > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/oww-sc
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
> OpenWetWare Steering Committee Mailing List
> sc at openwetware.org
> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/oww-sc
>
> _______________________________________________
> OpenWetWare Steering Committee Mailing List
> sc at openwetware.org
> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/oww-sc
>
>


From tk at csail.mit.edu  Mon Feb  4 18:18:10 2008
From: tk at csail.mit.edu (Tom Knight)
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 18:18:10 -0500
Subject: [OWW-SC] new user list
In-Reply-To: <6e9f40380802041508n5df474c4m8bc42d7b0b5a64e8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <87lk608jp3.fsf@nitsua.mit.edu>
	<cf36c28d0802041403h116aa442h89a036be29c4aa14@mail.gmail.com>
	<4E60E79F-A14D-4695-9E89-0F78DE36DBEB@gmail.com>
	<6e9f40380802041508n5df474c4m8bc42d7b0b5a64e8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <efb2b2ec4abaa9391f287d6ae4e776f3@csail.mit.edu>

I presume we all understand that there is a huge difference between  
"it's possible" and "it's trivial and already done, and has a great  
user interface."


On Feb 4, 2008, at 6:08 PM, Reshma Shetty wrote:
>
> Also Vincent, I think that some/all of your suggestions are possible
> using the dynamic page list extension that is already available on
> OWW.  It is just very non-intuitive to use so figuring out the right
> syntax can be challenging.
>
> Check out  
> http://semeb.com/dpldemo/index.php? 
> title=Example_3#Varying_font_size_based_on_popularity
>
> It allows you to create a list of articles where the font size of the
> article name depends on the number of times that article has been
> viewed.  I'll try to play around with it later to see what happens.
>
> -Reshma
>



From bill.altmail at gmail.com  Mon Feb  4 20:51:01 2008
From: bill.altmail at gmail.com (Bill F)
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 20:51:01 -0500
Subject: [OWW-SC] Commercial lab notebook features/price
Message-ID: <26428aaa0802041751r222a4d8bwcd243406bb44d58a@mail.gmail.com>

I recently found this document from LabTrack (
http://www.labtrack.com/ProductComparison.html) describing their electronic
lab notebook products. The price, to me at least, is interesting; the
feature set, even more so. This is billed as "the legal" electronic lab
notebook. I can't see a single scientific feature listed in the document.
The legal features mentioned are interesting. This is aimed at a company
that wants to do as much as possible to guarantee strict adherence to IP
protection.

*omparison*







Personal <http://www.labtrack.com/LabtrackPersonalEdition.html>
Personal/Q1<http://www.labtrack.com/PersonalQ1.html>
Team <http://www.labtrack.com/TeamELNSolution.html>
Enterprise<http://www.labtrack.com/EnterpriseELNSolution.html>
 License Options
 Max Number of Users 5 5 200 10,000
 Software List Price Starts At $1,700 $2,500 $6,000 $14,000
 Computer HW Included in Price   ?

 Database Options
 Databases Supported MSDE, Oracle XE MSDE, Oracle XE SQL Server, Oracle 10g SQL
Server, Oracle 10g
 Max Database Size 4 GB 4 GB *Unlimited *Unlimited

 User Computer Compatibility***
 Windows XP, Vista ? ? ? ?
 Macintosh     ? ?
 Internet Explorer ? ? ? ?
 Firefox ? ? ? ?
 Tablet PC Compatible ? ? ? ?

 cGMP Functions
 Electronic Signature (21 CFR Part 11) ? ? ? ?
 Audit Trail ? ? ? ?
 Customizable SOPs & Protocols ? ? ? ?
 Validation IQ/OQ/PQ Docs Available ? ? ? ?

 General Features
 One-Way Hashing for Legal Compliance ? ? ? ?
 Unlimited Number of Notebooks ? ? ? ?
 Embed Any Type of File ? ? ? ?
 Copy/Paste ? ? ? ?
 Print Pages ? ? ? ?
 Print Notebooks ? ? ? ?
 Print to PDF Files ? ? ? ?
 Custom Forms & Templates ? ? ? ?
 Witness Pages ? ? ? ?
 Review/Approve Pages ? ? ? ?
 Store Review Comments ? ? ? ?
 Review/Approve Notebooks ? ? ? ?
 Archive Notebooks ? ? ? ?
 **Off Line Editing - Check-In / Check-Out Notebooks ? ? ?
 Check-In / Check-Out Pages ? ? ? ?
 Send Email w/ Hypertext Links ? ? ? ?
 Automatic Emails ? ? ? ?
 Automatic Subscriptions/Notifications ? ? ? ?
 Notebookviews for Combining Notebooks ? ? ? ?
 Combine Sub-sets of Notebooks ? ? ? ?
 Google Mini/Enterprise Compatible     ? ?

 User Rights / Authentication
 Workgroups ? ? ? ?
 Departments       ?
 Divisions       ?
 Corporate ? ? ? ?



 * Limited only by  SQL Server or Oracle 10g specifications

 ** Requires Personal or Personal/Q1 in combination with Enterprise
 *** Refer to LABTrack Requirements Document for specific requirements for
users computers and servers.
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From jasonk at MIT.EDU  Tue Feb  5 02:57:42 2008
From: jasonk at MIT.EDU (Jason Kelly)
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 02:57:42 -0500
Subject: [OWW-SC] Reminder: SC meeting TH (2/7) at Noon EST
Message-ID: <7c085c480802042357o64d432edwc51c4d1c799eb8e7@mail.gmail.com>

hey SC,

Reminder that the SC meeting is this TH (2/7) at Noon EST. Number is
617-324-7520.

Chairs fill in your reports here:
http://openwetware.org/wiki/OpenWetWare:Steering_committee/Meeting_-_February_2008

Please add items to the agenda:
http://openwetware.org/wiki/OpenWetWare:Steering_committee_next_meeting

Or take a look at action list from last month for left over to-do items.
http://openwetware.org/wiki/OpenWetWare:Steering_committee_actions

contact austin if you want to use sip.

Thanks!
jason


From tk at csail.mit.edu  Tue Feb  5 12:31:35 2008
From: tk at csail.mit.edu (Tom Knight)
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 12:31:35 -0500
Subject: [OWW-SC] Bursty work and collaborative web based science
Message-ID: <79a180951d60bcad2b3e586e94fc0964@csail.mit.edu>

http://mndoci.com/blog/2008/02/03/the-future-of-scientific- 
collaboration-extending-the-bursty-work-concept/



From johncumbers at gmail.com  Tue Feb  5 16:11:38 2008
From: johncumbers at gmail.com (John Cumbers)
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 16:11:38 -0500
Subject: [OWW-SC] Publishing Teleconference will be at 11am tomorrow, Wed,
	EST, please call USA +1 617 324 7374 to take part. Agenda attached.
Message-ID: <cfd758050802051311k31e873eavad2526da90909d2b@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

re:
http://blog.openwetware.org/sc/2008/02/03/what-would-be-your-top-5-priorities-from-a-new-style-publishing-system/#comment-5
For all those interested OWW publishing teleconference will be at 11am
tomorrow, Wed, EST, please call USA +1 617  324  7374 to take part.  Agenda
will be:

1) What does the community need as far as a  publishing channel?  What are
the key requirements.
2) is this met elsewhere, why/why not?
3) should we set something up, what would be the scope?
4) would we want to involve third parties, if so how? who?
5) Logistics and time-line
6) What to report to steering committee, and date of next meeting

Please mail me to change agenda items,
Cheers,
John


-- 
John Cumbers,  Graduate Student
Molecular Biology, Cell Biology, and Biochemistry
Biology and Medicine
Brown University, Box G-W
Providence, Rhode Island, 02912, USA
Tel USA: +1 401 523 8190,  Fax: +1 401 863-2166
UK to USA: 0207 617 7824
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From jasonk at MIT.EDU  Thu Feb  7 08:07:00 2008
From: jasonk at MIT.EDU (Jason Kelly)
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 08:07:00 -0500
Subject: [OWW-SC] reminder: SC meeting today at Noon
Message-ID: <7c085c480802070507l6132eefay9f6324ce93e2d36a@mail.gmail.com>

hey SC,

Reminder that the SC meeting is today at Noon EST. Number is
617-324-7520.

Chairs fill in your reports here:
http://openwetware.org/wiki/OpenWetWare:Steering_committee/Meeting_-_February_2008

Please add items to the agenda:
http://openwetware.org/wiki/OpenWetWare:Steering_committee_next_meeting

Or take a look at action list from last month for left over to-do items.
http://openwetware.org/wiki/OpenWetWare:Steering_committee_actions

contact austin if you want to use sip.

Talk to you soon, thanks,
jason


From jasonk at MIT.EDU  Thu Feb  7 19:22:07 2008
From: jasonk at MIT.EDU (Jason Kelly)
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 19:22:07 -0500
Subject: [OWW-SC] February 08 SC Meeting Notes
Message-ID: <7c085c480802071622m5a6b38c0i2a83ddbc8294c2f8@mail.gmail.com>

Hi SC,

Thanks everyone for calling in to the meeting.

First off, John made the great suggestion of an 'OWW Action Hour' next
Thu 14th Feb at noon EST.  Basically it would just be OWW members
logging onto the site at the same time, being in the chat, and working
on tasks from the SC meeting (or anything else OWW-related).  Should
be fun, please come along!

For those who couldn't make it, notes are here:
http://openwetware.org/wiki/OpenWetWare:Steering_committee/Meeting_-_February_2008

action list here:
http://openwetware.org/wiki/OpenWetWare:Steering_committee_actions

We're going to be having a couple meetings between now and the next SC
meeting.  John and Julius are putting together a follow-up discussion
about publishing and Bill & Lorrie will be leading a tutorial of the
new lab notebook software for those interested in using it (or in just
in learning more about it).  Emails to follow about dates.

Lastly, my reign of terror is ending and we are looking to elect SC
positions, so please email me to nominate yourself or anyone else!

thanks,
jason


From tk at csail.mit.edu  Fri Feb  8 13:21:09 2008
From: tk at csail.mit.edu (Tom Knight)
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 13:21:09 -0500
Subject: [OWW-SC] Lab notebook discussion
Message-ID: <59735709c724fc21428a61474cb0ab91@csail.mit.edu>

http://pipeline.corante.com/archives/2008/02/07/ 
write_it_down_write_it_down.php



From bill.altmail at gmail.com  Wed Feb 13 02:32:43 2008
From: bill.altmail at gmail.com (Bill F)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 02:32:43 -0500
Subject: [OWW-SC] Lab Notebook Update
Message-ID: <26428aaa0802122332q8895f4ard95974eb7e76dd56@mail.gmail.com>

All of the lab notebook pages now have a bottom page banner stating that Lab
Notebooks are actively being developed. An embedded link in the notice leads
to the discussion page:

http://openwetware.org/wiki/OpenWetWare:Software/Projects/Lab_Notebooks/Discussion

Please report any issues on this page.

Thanks.

Bill
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From bill.altmail at gmail.com  Wed Feb 13 09:40:57 2008
From: bill.altmail at gmail.com (Bill F)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 09:40:57 -0500
Subject: [OWW-SC] More updates... GMAP Who's Online now working.
Message-ID: <26428aaa0802130640h3800d4bfyb29a4fc2662be58f@mail.gmail.com>

I just finished an update to the "whosonline".

1. There's is a new preference page called "location". There are several
items that can be entered. The two that you should immediately pay attention
to are the lest obvious but the most useful: latitude and longitude.

>From MIT, this can be set to
Latitude: 42.359
Longitude -71.093553.

I'm adding a geocode lookup but for now this works.

To get your lat and longitude, just bring up Google Maps, find your site,
center the site by clicking on it, then enter the following line into your
browser and Google will tell you exactly where you are:

javascript:void(prompt('',gApplication.getMap().getCenter()));

Put the returned numbers into OWW. I'll make it automatic when I have time.

Then just embed the following tag anywhere and you will see a Google Map of
all logged in users who have valid latitude and longitude entered.

{{GmapOnline}}

This is a first cut. We can make it a lot more interesting. But for now it
will show the info on anyone currentyle loggoed in.

Last weekend, I went through the UMS login info. From this I've generated a
table of location info that I'm going to use to seed the OWW userbase. This
info will not be generally accessible: it will live in the OWW database but
will not be displayed to other users. The map markers  will be generated
using this info but.

When you click on the market, a link to the user's OWW personal page will be
show.

You can try it with my entry, currently the only active one on the map.

I want company folks... get those paramaeters entered!

Bill Flanagan
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From vincent.rouilly at gmail.com  Wed Feb 13 09:57:16 2008
From: vincent.rouilly at gmail.com (Vincent Rouilly)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 14:57:16 +0000
Subject: [OWW-SC] More updates... GMAP Who's Online now working.
In-Reply-To: <26428aaa0802130640h3800d4bfyb29a4fc2662be58f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <26428aaa0802130640h3800d4bfyb29a4fc2662be58f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <05666AC1-1721-4117-B06F-B2CDD199E855@gmail.com>


That's fantastic ! It is great to get a visual feel for the community  
behind OWW !

It was very easy to follow the instructions. Shall we put a link from  
the front page to the instructions ?
Can we consider putting the map on the OWW front page ?

cheers,

Vincent.


On 13 Feb 2008, at 14:40, Bill F wrote:

> I just finished an update to the "whosonline".
>
> 1. There's is a new preference page called "location". There are  
> several items that can be entered. The two that you should  
> immediately pay attention to are the lest obvious but the most  
> useful: latitude and longitude.
>
> From MIT, this can be set to
> Latitude: 42.359
> Longitude -71.093553.
>
> I'm adding a geocode lookup but for now this works.
>
> To get your lat and longitude, just bring up Google Maps, find your  
> site, center the site by clicking on it, then enter the following  
> line into your browser and Google will tell you exactly where you are:
>
> javascript:void(prompt('',gApplication.getMap().getCenter()));
>
> Put the returned numbers into OWW. I'll make it automatic when I  
> have time.
>
> Then just embed the following tag anywhere and you will see a  
> Google Map of all logged in users who have valid latitude and  
> longitude entered.
>
> {{GmapOnline}}
>
> This is a first cut. We can make it a lot more interesting. But for  
> now it will show the info on anyone currentyle loggoed in.
>
> Last weekend, I went through the UMS login info. From this I've  
> generated a table of location info that I'm going to use to seed  
> the OWW userbase. This info will not be generally accessible: it  
> will live in the OWW database but will not be displayed to other  
> users. The map markers  will be generated using this info but.
>
> When you click on the market, a link to the user's OWW personal  
> page will be show.
>
> You can try it with my entry, currently the only active one on the  
> map.
>
> I want company folks... get those paramaeters entered!
>
> Bill Flanagan
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> OpenWetWare Steering Committee Mailing List
> sc at openwetware.org
> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/oww-sc



From julius at younglucks.com  Wed Feb 13 13:36:42 2008
From: julius at younglucks.com (Julius Lucks)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 10:36:42 -0800
Subject: [OWW-SC] More updates... GMAP Who's Online now working.
In-Reply-To: <26428aaa0802130640h3800d4bfyb29a4fc2662be58f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <26428aaa0802130640h3800d4bfyb29a4fc2662be58f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <566d890b0802131036i3c21e807je7545c5734d065a1@mail.gmail.com>

This is really awesome Bill!

I put the map on

http://www.openwetware.org/wiki/Sandbox1

for all to see.

At least there are 4 of us now!

Julius

On Feb 13, 2008 6:40 AM, Bill F <bill.altmail at gmail.com> wrote:

> I just finished an update to the "whosonline".
>
> 1. There's is a new preference page called "location". There are several
> items that can be entered. The two that you should immediately pay attention
> to are the lest obvious but the most useful: latitude and longitude.
>
> From MIT, this can be set to
> Latitude: 42.359
> Longitude -71.093553.
>
> I'm adding a geocode lookup but for now this works.
>
> To get your lat and longitude, just bring up Google Maps, find your site,
> center the site by clicking on it, then enter the following line into your
> browser and Google will tell you exactly where you are:
>
> javascript:void(prompt('',gApplication.getMap().getCenter()));
>
> Put the returned numbers into OWW. I'll make it automatic when I have
> time.
>
> Then just embed the following tag anywhere and you will see a Google Map
> of all logged in users who have valid latitude and longitude entered.
>
> {{GmapOnline}}
>
> This is a first cut. We can make it a lot more interesting. But for now it
> will show the info on anyone currentyle loggoed in.
>
> Last weekend, I went through the UMS login info. From this I've generated
> a table of location info that I'm going to use to seed the OWW userbase.
> This info will not be generally accessible: it will live in the OWW database
> but will not be displayed to other users. The map markers  will be generated
> using this info but.
>
> When you click on the market, a link to the user's OWW personal page will
> be show.
>
> You can try it with my entry, currently the only active one on the map.
>
> I want company folks... get those paramaeters entered!
>
> Bill Flanagan
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> OpenWetWare Steering Committee Mailing List
> sc at openwetware.org
> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/oww-sc
>
>


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From johncumbers at gmail.com  Wed Feb 13 13:49:24 2008
From: johncumbers at gmail.com (John Cumbers)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 13:49:24 -0500
Subject: [OWW-SC] First oww-action-hour tomorrow-Thursday-14th-Feb-noon-est
Message-ID: <cfd758050802131049q34caf155qed19a7ec62698297@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,
First oww-action-hour  tomorrow-Thursday-14th-Feb-noon-est
http://blog.openwetware.org/sc/2008/02/09/oww-action-hour-thursday-14th-feb-noon-est/#comments
Meeting place: http://openwetware.org/wiki/Special:Chat

You may be interested in the first 'OWW action hour' next week, Thu 14th
Feb, noon-1pm EST.  Where a bunch of people from the steering committee will
be on-line and either completing their actions or chatting with you about
what's going on around the site.  It's the first one, and our attempt at
creating a bit more of a real time community that meets more than just once
a month by phone.  We'll 'meet' in the chat room on the main page.  Maureen
is making brownies (is that correct?) so add your name in the comments if
you are coming so she can plan accordingly.

Cheers,

John


-- 
John Cumbers,  Graduate Student
Molecular Biology, Cell Biology, and Biochemistry
Biology and Medicine
Brown University, Box G-W
Providence, Rhode Island, 02912, USA
Tel USA: +1 401 523 8190,  Fax: +1 401 863-2166
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From bcanton at MIT.EDU  Wed Feb 13 14:02:55 2008
From: bcanton at MIT.EDU (Barry Canton)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 14:02:55 -0500
Subject: [OWW-SC] More updates... GMAP Who's Online now working.
In-Reply-To: <566d890b0802131036i3c21e807je7545c5734d065a1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <26428aaa0802130640h3800d4bfyb29a4fc2662be58f@mail.gmail.com>
	<566d890b0802131036i3c21e807je7545c5734d065a1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <52c0d2160802131102m3e9bb919r2a8707d00041e63d@mail.gmail.com>

There's a few of us in Cambridge, USA.  We're just hidden under Bill's marker:)

Barry



On Feb 13, 2008 1:36 PM, Julius Lucks <julius at younglucks.com> wrote:
> This is really awesome Bill!
>
> I put the map on
>
> http://www.openwetware.org/wiki/Sandbox1
>
> for all to see.
>
> At least there are 4 of us now!
>
>  Julius
>
>
>
> On Feb 13, 2008 6:40 AM, Bill F <bill.altmail at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > I just finished an update to the "whosonline".
> >
> > 1. There's is a new preference page called "location". There are several
> items that can be entered. The two that you should immediately pay attention
> to are the lest obvious but the most useful: latitude and longitude.
> >
> > From MIT, this can be set to
> > Latitude: 42.359
> > Longitude -71.093553.
> >
> > I'm adding a geocode lookup but for now this works.
> >
> > To get your lat and longitude, just bring up Google Maps, find your site,
> center the site by clicking on it, then enter the following line into your
> browser and Google will tell you exactly where you are:
> >
> > javascript:void(prompt('',gApplication.getMap().getCenter()));
> >
> > Put the returned numbers into OWW. I'll make it automatic when I have
> time.
> >
> > Then just embed the following tag anywhere and you will see a Google Map
> of all logged in users who have valid latitude and longitude entered.
> >
> > {{GmapOnline}}
> >
> > This is a first cut. We can make it a lot more interesting. But for now it
> will show the info on anyone currentyle loggoed in.
> >
> > Last weekend, I went through the UMS login info. From this I've generated
> a table of location info that I'm going to use to seed the OWW userbase.
> This info will not be generally accessible: it will live in the OWW database
> but will not be displayed to other users. The map markers  will be generated
> using this info but.
> >
> > When you click on the market, a link to the user's OWW personal page will
> be show.
> >
> > You can try it with my entry, currently the only active one on the map.
> >
> > I want company folks... get those paramaeters entered!
> >
> > Bill Flanagan
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > OpenWetWare Steering Committee Mailing List
> > sc at openwetware.org
> > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/oww-sc
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> http://openwetware.org/wiki/User:Julius_B._Lucks
>  --------------------------------------------------------------------
> _______________________________________________
> OpenWetWare Steering Committee Mailing List
> sc at openwetware.org
> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/oww-sc
>
>



-- 
Barry Canton
Endy Lab
Biological Engineering Division
Massachusetts Institute of Technology

Tel.:(617) 401-7320 (Grand Central)
Email1: bcanton at mit.edu
Email2: bcanton at gmail.com


From hoatlinm at ohsu.edu  Wed Feb 13 14:24:04 2008
From: hoatlinm at ohsu.edu (Maureen Hoatlin)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 11:24:04 -0800
Subject: [OWW-SC] First oww-action-hour
 tomorrow-Thursday-14th-Feb-noon-est
In-Reply-To: <cfd758050802131049q34caf155qed19a7ec62698297@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C3D883D4.D8EB%hoatlinm@ohsu.edu>

HI All, 

Yes, let me know about those brownies so I can scale up! I will have to
serve, eat and run as I have another date at 12:30.

I think it would be great if we could discuss how to get more scientific
collaborations in the community going via OWW, if that is a focus we want.
-Maureen


On 2/13/08 10:49 AM, "John Cumbers" <johncumbers at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi all, 
> First oww-action-hour  tomorrow-Thursday-14th-Feb-noon-est
> http://blog.openwetware.org/sc/2008/02/09/oww-action-hour-thursday-14th-feb-no
> on-est/#comments 
> Meeting place: http://openwetware.org/wiki/Special:Chat
> You may be interested in the first 'OWW action hour' next week, Thu 14th Feb,
> noon-1pm EST.  Where a bunch of people from the steering committee will be
> on-line and either completing their actions or chatting with you about what's
> going on around the site.  It's the first one, and our attempt at creating a
> bit more of a real time community that meets more than just once a month by
> phone.  We'll 'meet' in the chat room on the main page.  Maureen is making
> brownies (is that correct?) so add your name in the comments if you are coming
> so she can plan accordingly.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> John
> 


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From johncumbers at gmail.com  Wed Feb 13 17:39:40 2008
From: johncumbers at gmail.com (John Cumbers)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 17:39:40 -0500
Subject: [OWW-SC] First oww-action-hour
	tomorrow-Thursday-14th-Feb-noon-est
In-Reply-To: <C3D883D4.D8EB%hoatlinm@ohsu.edu>
References: <cfd758050802131049q34caf155qed19a7ec62698297@mail.gmail.com>
	<C3D883D4.D8EB%hoatlinm@ohsu.edu>
Message-ID: <cfd758050802131439k4ab31419l5ba521882df73224@mail.gmail.com>

sounds good, I'd also like people to think more about the publishing
requirements before the publishing teleconf. again next Thu.
http://blog.openwetware.org/sc/2008/02/03/what-would-be-your-top-5-priorities-from-a-new-style-publishing-system/
As this is the first one of these, I guess let's just see how it goes,
sounds like multiple chat windows might be useful so that we can
multitask...

cheers,
John


On Feb 13, 2008 2:24 PM, Maureen Hoatlin <hoatlinm at ohsu.edu> wrote:

>  HI All,
>
> Yes, let me know about those brownies so I can scale up! I will have to
> serve, eat and run as I have another date at 12:30.
>
> I think it would be great if we could discuss how to get more scientific
> collaborations in the community going via OWW, if that is a focus we want.
> -Maureen
>
>
> On 2/13/08 10:49 AM, "John Cumbers" <johncumbers at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> First oww-action-hour  tomorrow-Thursday-14th-Feb-noon-est
>
> http://blog.openwetware.org/sc/2008/02/09/oww-action-hour-thursday-14th-feb-noon-est/#comments
> Meeting place: http://openwetware.org/wiki/Special:Chat
> You may be interested in the first 'OWW action hour' next week, Thu 14th
> Feb, noon-1pm EST.  Where a bunch of people from the steering committee will
> be on-line and either completing their actions or chatting with you about
> what's going on around the site.  It's the first one, and our attempt at
> creating a bit more of a real time community that meets more than just once
> a month by phone.  We'll 'meet' in the chat room on the main page.  Maureen
> is making brownies (is that correct?) so add your name in the comments if
> you are coming so she can plan accordingly.
>
> Cheers,
>
> John
>
>
>


-- 
John Cumbers,  Graduate Student
Molecular Biology, Cell Biology, and Biochemistry
Biology and Medicine
Brown University, Box G-W
Providence, Rhode Island, 02912, USA
Tel USA: +1 401 523 8190,  Fax: +1 401 863-2166
UK to USA: 0207 617 7824
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From bill.altmail at gmail.com  Wed Feb 13 17:48:06 2008
From: bill.altmail at gmail.com (Bill F)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 17:48:06 -0500
Subject: [OWW-SC] First oww-action-hour
	tomorrow-Thursday-14th-Feb-noon-est
In-Reply-To: <cfd758050802131439k4ab31419l5ba521882df73224@mail.gmail.com>
References: <cfd758050802131049q34caf155qed19a7ec62698297@mail.gmail.com>
	<C3D883D4.D8EB%hoatlinm@ohsu.edu>
	<cfd758050802131439k4ab31419l5ba521882df73224@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <26428aaa0802131448t5ac16fffpd17f71d65d8f0e9e@mail.gmail.com>

Speak for yourself, John. I can't effectively multitask with one. It
geometrically degrades as I increase windows.


On Feb 13, 2008 5:39 PM, John Cumbers <johncumbers at gmail.com> wrote:

> sounds good, I'd also like people to think more about the publishing
> requirements before the publishing teleconf. again next Thu.
> http://blog.openwetware.org/sc/2008/02/03/what-would-be-your-top-5-priorities-from-a-new-style-publishing-system/
> As this is the first one of these, I guess let's just see how it goes,
> sounds like multiple chat windows might be useful so that we can
> multitask...
>
> cheers,
> John
>
>
> On Feb 13, 2008 2:24 PM, Maureen Hoatlin <hoatlinm at ohsu.edu> wrote:
>
> >  HI All,
> >
> > Yes, let me know about those brownies so I can scale up! I will have to
> > serve, eat and run as I have another date at 12:30.
> >
> > I think it would be great if we could discuss how to get more scientific
> > collaborations in the community going via OWW, if that is a focus we want.
> > -Maureen
> >
> >
> > On 2/13/08 10:49 AM, "John Cumbers" <johncumbers at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> > First oww-action-hour  tomorrow-Thursday-14th-Feb-noon-est
> >
> > http://blog.openwetware.org/sc/2008/02/09/oww-action-hour-thursday-14th-feb-noon-est/#comments
> > Meeting place: http://openwetware.org/wiki/Special:Chat
> > You may be interested in the first 'OWW action hour' next week, Thu 14th
> > Feb, noon-1pm EST.  Where a bunch of people from the steering committee will
> > be on-line and either completing their actions or chatting with you about
> > what's going on around the site.  It's the first one, and our attempt at
> > creating a bit more of a real time community that meets more than just once
> > a month by phone.  We'll 'meet' in the chat room on the main page.  Maureen
> > is making brownies (is that correct?) so add your name in the comments if
> > you are coming so she can plan accordingly.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> John Cumbers,  Graduate Student
> Molecular Biology, Cell Biology, and Biochemistry
> Biology and Medicine
> Brown University, Box G-W
> Providence, Rhode Island, 02912, USA
> Tel USA: +1 401 523 8190,  Fax: +1 401 863-2166
> UK to USA: 0207 617 7824
>
> _______________________________________________
> OpenWetWare Steering Committee Mailing List
> sc at openwetware.org
> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/oww-sc
>
>
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From johncumbers at gmail.com  Wed Feb 13 17:58:41 2008
From: johncumbers at gmail.com (John Cumbers)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 17:58:41 -0500
Subject: [OWW-SC] More updates... GMAP Who's Online now working.
In-Reply-To: <52c0d2160802131102m3e9bb919r2a8707d00041e63d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <26428aaa0802130640h3800d4bfyb29a4fc2662be58f@mail.gmail.com>
	<566d890b0802131036i3c21e807je7545c5734d065a1@mail.gmail.com>
	<52c0d2160802131102m3e9bb919r2a8707d00041e63d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <cfd758050802131458o3d27d56ua681a73b1b49f9ae@mail.gmail.com>

I now appear to have trumped all of you Red Sox with my Providence pin, go
Pawsox :)

On Feb 13, 2008 2:02 PM, Barry Canton <bcanton at mit.edu> wrote:

> There's a few of us in Cambridge, USA.  We're just hidden under Bill's
> marker:)
>
> Barry
>
>
>
> On Feb 13, 2008 1:36 PM, Julius Lucks <julius at younglucks.com> wrote:
> > This is really awesome Bill!
> >
> > I put the map on
> >
> > http://www.openwetware.org/wiki/Sandbox1
> >
> > for all to see.
> >
> > At least there are 4 of us now!
> >
> >  Julius
> >
> >
> >
> > On Feb 13, 2008 6:40 AM, Bill F <bill.altmail at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I just finished an update to the "whosonline".
> > >
> > > 1. There's is a new preference page called "location". There are
> several
> > items that can be entered. The two that you should immediately pay
> attention
> > to are the lest obvious but the most useful: latitude and longitude.
> > >
> > > From MIT, this can be set to
> > > Latitude: 42.359
> > > Longitude -71.093553.
> > >
> > > I'm adding a geocode lookup but for now this works.
> > >
> > > To get your lat and longitude, just bring up Google Maps, find your
> site,
> > center the site by clicking on it, then enter the following line into
> your
> > browser and Google will tell you exactly where you are:
> > >
> > > javascript:void(prompt('',gApplication.getMap().getCenter()));
> > >
> > > Put the returned numbers into OWW. I'll make it automatic when I have
> > time.
> > >
> > > Then just embed the following tag anywhere and you will see a Google
> Map
> > of all logged in users who have valid latitude and longitude entered.
> > >
> > > {{GmapOnline}}
> > >
> > > This is a first cut. We can make it a lot more interesting. But for
> now it
> > will show the info on anyone currentyle loggoed in.
> > >
> > > Last weekend, I went through the UMS login info. From this I've
> generated
> > a table of location info that I'm going to use to seed the OWW userbase.
> > This info will not be generally accessible: it will live in the OWW
> database
> > but will not be displayed to other users. The map markers  will be
> generated
> > using this info but.
> > >
> > > When you click on the market, a link to the user's OWW personal page
> will
> > be show.
> > >
> > > You can try it with my entry, currently the only active one on the
> map.
> > >
> > > I want company folks... get those paramaeters entered!
> > >
> > > Bill Flanagan
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > OpenWetWare Steering Committee Mailing List
> > > sc at openwetware.org
> > > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/oww-sc
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------
> > http://openwetware.org/wiki/User:Julius_B._Lucks
> >  --------------------------------------------------------------------
> > _______________________________________________
> > OpenWetWare Steering Committee Mailing List
> > sc at openwetware.org
> > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/oww-sc
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Barry Canton
> Endy Lab
> Biological Engineering Division
> Massachusetts Institute of Technology
>
> Tel.:(617) 401-7320 (Grand Central)
> Email1: bcanton at mit.edu
> Email2: bcanton at gmail.com
> _______________________________________________
> OpenWetWare Steering Committee Mailing List
> sc at openwetware.org
> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/oww-sc
>



-- 
John Cumbers,  Graduate Student
Molecular Biology, Cell Biology, and Biochemistry
Biology and Medicine
Brown University, Box G-W
Providence, Rhode Island, 02912, USA
Tel USA: +1 401 523 8190,  Fax: +1 401 863-2166
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From bill.altmail at gmail.com  Wed Feb 13 18:14:24 2008
From: bill.altmail at gmail.com (Bill F)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 18:14:24 -0500
Subject: [OWW-SC] Minimal Google "Local Search" is now available for testing
Message-ID: <26428aaa0802131514t11b51d93j8fac6b7ed64d79ff@mail.gmail.com>

(This page can be found at the following URL:
http://openwetware.org/wiki/OpenWetWare:Software/Projects/Local_Search)

The Local Search feature is accessed via a template: There currently are no
arguments required. Just drop in the tag and you have a local search box.
It's not elegant but it works pretty well.

{{GoogleSearch}}

Please post any comments on the following discussion page:

http://openwetware.org/wiki/OpenWetWare:Software/Projects/Local_Search/Discussion

Please use this as the way you deploy the search. If you look inside of it,
you will note that there is a  single  parser  tag, <google />. Please use
the template rather than the tag. As i add aditional parameters, I'll
continue to support the template.

Just place the following tag anywhere in a page hierarchy and it will create
a search box that will only search the hierarchically descending pages.

Thanks once more to Austin for suggesting this approach. And thanks to
Google for religiously searching OWW on a regular basis to make it possible.

There are a few enhancement I'm going to add next.

1. When you hit search with nothing in the box, Google currently will return
all of the pages. This isn't a bad thing but it's not necessary. Instead,
hitting search with nothing in the search box will do.....

nothing!

2. This won't immeiately work for private wikis. I'm adding support so that
it will locate the current website next. This isn't a big deal but it's
useful enough that Barry may want to use it in his private wiki and
currently won't be abe to.

3. Google provides a more exensive Javascript library to allow more complex
search features. I'll add support for this when I have time. This is a low
priority.

4. Currently,the pages returned are displayed on Google's website. I want to
redirect the content back to a local OWW page so that there won't be a
jarring experience of searcing and leaving then returning. I can use an html
iframe for this but I hate to do this for security reasons. The good thing
is that the results will always be limited to OWW so this may not be a huge
problem.

After clearing this up, I'll take my 'experience' in seeing how people use
this back to the native OWW search engine and see if we can better handle
results in a more timely manner.

Thanks.

B.
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From jasonk at MIT.EDU  Wed Feb 13 23:47:14 2008
From: jasonk at MIT.EDU (Jason Kelly)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 23:47:14 -0500
Subject: [OWW-SC] merge discuss and sc list?
Message-ID: <7c085c480802132047k1bdac712m4d0379fa86b05ae8@mail.gmail.com>

Hi folks,

I'd like to propose a merging of the discuss at oww and sc at oww lists.
Most of the emails on the SC list aren't exclusively "SC business"
(whatever that means), and I think having the multiple lists prevents
new OWW users who only sign up for the discuss list from finding out
what's going on in the OWW community (since most of that comes up on
SC list). For instance, recent emails from Dan to the discuss list
saying he didn't know about SC meeting details.

The SC list has 47 members.  The discuss list has 65 members.  There
are 18 people that are on SC list but not on the discuss list, so we'd
merge them into discuss.  (Thanks ilya for stats)

Alternatively, we can be more diligent about emailing
community-related things to the discuss list, but it just seems easier
to merge.  If the traffic gets too bad we could always start an
"announce" list or a list for a particular subtopic that had lots of
traffic.

What do people think?

Thanks,
jason


From macowell at gmail.com  Wed Feb 13 23:57:41 2008
From: macowell at gmail.com (Mackenzie Cowell)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 23:57:41 -0500
Subject: [OWW-SC] [OWW-Discuss] merge discuss and sc list?
In-Reply-To: <7c085c480802132047k1bdac712m4d0379fa86b05ae8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7c085c480802132047k1bdac712m4d0379fa86b05ae8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <54746a3f0802132057ydeeb47fxbc1d109ae2f4736c@mail.gmail.com>

I second this idea.
I was completely clueless about the discuss list until this afternoon, when
austin made incidental comment about an email he had sent to it.  I don't
think there is a good practical reason to keep them separated at this point.
 We can always reestablish an SC list if there are lots of SC-only topics
that would otherwise pollute the discuss list.

mac

On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 11:47 PM, Jason Kelly <jasonk at mit.edu> wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> I'd like to propose a merging of the discuss at oww and sc at oww lists.
> Most of the emails on the SC list aren't exclusively "SC business"
> (whatever that means), and I think having the multiple lists prevents
> new OWW users who only sign up for the discuss list from finding out
> what's going on in the OWW community (since most of that comes up on
> SC list). For instance, recent emails from Dan to the discuss list
> saying he didn't know about SC meeting details.
>
> The SC list has 47 members.  The discuss list has 65 members.  There
> are 18 people that are on SC list but not on the discuss list, so we'd
> merge them into discuss.  (Thanks ilya for stats)
>
> Alternatively, we can be more diligent about emailing
> community-related things to the discuss list, but it just seems easier
> to merge.  If the traffic gets too bad we could always start an
> "announce" list or a list for a particular subtopic that had lots of
> traffic.
>
> What do people think?
>
> Thanks,
> jason
> _______________________________________________
> OpenWetWare Discussion Mailing List
> discuss at openwetware.org
> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/oww-discuss
>



-- 
Mac Cowell
iGEM Coordinator
igem.org
231.313.9062
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From bill.altmail at gmail.com  Thu Feb 14 09:18:33 2008
From: bill.altmail at gmail.com (Bill F)
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 09:18:33 -0500
Subject: [OWW-SC] [OWW-Discuss] merge discuss and sc list?
In-Reply-To: <54746a3f0802132057ydeeb47fxbc1d109ae2f4736c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7c085c480802132047k1bdac712m4d0379fa86b05ae8@mail.gmail.com>
	<54746a3f0802132057ydeeb47fxbc1d109ae2f4736c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <26428aaa0802140618h55477000p46c0d542125d64e@mail.gmail.com>

Destructive progress. It works for me...

B.


On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 11:57 PM, Mackenzie Cowell <macowell at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I second this idea.
> I was completely clueless about the discuss list until this afternoon,
> when austin made incidental comment about an email he had sent to it.  I
> don't think there is a good practical reason to keep them separated at this
> point.  We can always reestablish an SC list if there are lots of SC-only
> topics that would otherwise pollute the discuss list.
>
> mac
>
> On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 11:47 PM, Jason Kelly <jasonk at mit.edu> wrote:
>
> > Hi folks,
> >
> > I'd like to propose a merging of the discuss at oww and sc at oww lists.
> > Most of the emails on the SC list aren't exclusively "SC business"
> > (whatever that means), and I think having the multiple lists prevents
> > new OWW users who only sign up for the discuss list from finding out
> > what's going on in the OWW community (since most of that comes up on
> > SC list). For instance, recent emails from Dan to the discuss list
> > saying he didn't know about SC meeting details.
> >
> > The SC list has 47 members.  The discuss list has 65 members.  There
> > are 18 people that are on SC list but not on the discuss list, so we'd
> > merge them into discuss.  (Thanks ilya for stats)
> >
> > Alternatively, we can be more diligent about emailing
> > community-related things to the discuss list, but it just seems easier
> > to merge.  If the traffic gets too bad we could always start an
> > "announce" list or a list for a particular subtopic that had lots of
> > traffic.
> >
> > What do people think?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > jason
> > _______________________________________________
> > OpenWetWare Discussion Mailing List
> > discuss at openwetware.org
> > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/oww-discuss
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Mac Cowell
> iGEM Coordinator
> igem.org
> 231.313.9062
>
> _______________________________________________
> OpenWetWare Steering Committee Mailing List
> sc at openwetware.org
> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/oww-sc
>
>
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From wjf42 at MIT.EDU  Thu Feb 14 10:18:07 2008
From: wjf42 at MIT.EDU (Bill Flanagan)
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 10:18:07 -0500
Subject: [OWW-SC] Another new search feature:OpenSearch service advertising
	is now enabled for OpenWetWare
Message-ID: <26428aaa0802140718o608f9eeevdeef4e203a979fe9@mail.gmail.com>

I've enable the "Advertise Opensearch" feature on OpenWetware.

OpenSearch is a feature that MediaWikis provides that allows any site
complying with a search spec called "OpenSearch", pioneered by Amazon's A9
Search engine, to "snap in" as  your default or a configurable search
engine.

To see the feature (or use it), your browser looks in the header of HTML
pages generated by a website. For Firefox, this is how to enable it.

I. Locate the browser search bar at the top right of your browser window.
2. Click on the down-arrow just to the right of the current registered
search engine. You'll notice it by the small icon.
3. A drop-down list will appear. You should see OpenWetware as one of the
options.
4. Select it as your current search engine.
5. All search in  that box, no matter where you are, will be done using
OpenWetWare's search box.
6. Results will appear as a new OpenWetWare page.

You can also customize the list by moving OpenWetWare up to the top of the
list. This will display it first when you go to select a new search engine.

This has nothing to do with the Local Search feature for OWW I'm working on
at the moment. But, it may. More on that when I can say something
intelligent about it!

Meanwhile, searching within OWW becomes a little bit more flexible.

Thanks.

B.
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