From ilyas at MIT.EDU Thu Feb 1 17:10:09 2007 From: ilyas at MIT.EDU (Ilya Sytchev) Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2007 17:10:09 -0500 Subject: [OWW-SC] [OWW-Discuss] WYSIWYG editor for Firefox In-Reply-To: References: <2b0cb7a10701311716h1bab5900hd3c25aedde3553ed@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45C26541.5070704@mit.edu> FYI, I have a collection of links to WYSIWYG editors which may be suitable for Mediawiki: http://openwetware.org/wiki/User:Ilya/OpenWetWare#Editors Ilya John Cumbers wrote: > I'm not actually sure that it makes it easier though, I suppose that > large list of buttons looks more like MS Word which most people are used > to, to me I found it a bit daunting.. I've just started using > http://www.wikispaces.com/ for organising a co-op that I'm in, this has > a simple but good WYSIWYG editor in it and editing is much nicer than > wikimedia, mainly cause you don't have to keep re-saving all the time. > > Perhaps we could try the extension out on new users and see what they > think, or old users who have had trouble editing... > cheers, > John > > > > On 1/31/07, * Sri Kosuri* > wrote: > > The following page describes a browser plugin for Firefox that makes > wikicode more WYSIWYG. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Cacycle/wikEd > > It's a super simple installation process and probably would be > pretty decent for beginners. Installation instructions can be found > here: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Cacycle/wikEd#Complete_version > > I wonder if we could make this a default option for new users. It > definitely makes it easier for novices to edit. > > Sri > > > _______________________________________________ > OpenWetWare Discussion Mailing List > discuss at openwetware.org > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/oww-discuss > > > > > > -- > John Cumbers, Graduate Student in Computational Biology > Brown University, Ecology and Evolutionary Biology, Box G-W > 80 Waterman Street, Providence, Rhode Island, 02912, USA > Tel USA: +1 401 523 8190, Fax: +1 401 863-2166 > UK to USA: 0207 617 7824 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > OpenWetWare Steering Committee Mailing List > sc at openwetware.org > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/oww-sc From johncumbers at gmail.com Thu Feb 1 18:01:55 2007 From: johncumbers at gmail.com (John Cumbers) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 18:01:55 -0500 Subject: [OWW-SC] [OWW-Discuss] WYSIWYG editor for Firefox In-Reply-To: <45C26541.5070704@mit.edu> References: <2b0cb7a10701311716h1bab5900hd3c25aedde3553ed@mail.gmail.com> <45C26541.5070704@mit.edu> Message-ID: I do agree that WYSIWYG would be better to encourage new users to OWW, perhaps we could put some OWW funds behind one of these that we like to help develop it further (I've not checked them out yet, so maybe one is great already). cheers, John On 2/1/07, Ilya Sytchev wrote: > > FYI, I have a collection of links to WYSIWYG editors which may be > suitable for Mediawiki: > http://openwetware.org/wiki/User:Ilya/OpenWetWare#Editors > > Ilya > > John Cumbers wrote: > > I'm not actually sure that it makes it easier though, I suppose that > > large list of buttons looks more like MS Word which most people are used > > to, to me I found it a bit daunting.. I've just started using > > http://www.wikispaces.com/ for organising a co-op that I'm in, this has > > a simple but good WYSIWYG editor in it and editing is much nicer than > > wikimedia, mainly cause you don't have to keep re-saving all the time. > > > > Perhaps we could try the extension out on new users and see what they > > think, or old users who have had trouble editing... > > cheers, > > John > > > > > > > > On 1/31/07, * Sri Kosuri* > > wrote: > > > > The following page describes a browser plugin for Firefox that makes > > wikicode more WYSIWYG. > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Cacycle/wikEd > > > > It's a super simple installation process and probably would be > > pretty decent for beginners. Installation instructions can be found > > here: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Cacycle/wikEd#Complete_version > > > > I wonder if we could make this a default option for new users. It > > definitely makes it easier for novices to edit. > > > > Sri > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > OpenWetWare Discussion Mailing List > > discuss at openwetware.org > > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/oww-discuss > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > John Cumbers, Graduate Student in Computational Biology > > Brown University, Ecology and Evolutionary Biology, Box G-W > > 80 Waterman Street, Providence, Rhode Island, 02912, USA > > Tel USA: +1 401 523 8190, Fax: +1 401 863-2166 > > UK to USA: 0207 617 7824 > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > OpenWetWare Steering Committee Mailing List > > sc at openwetware.org > > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/oww-sc > _______________________________________________ > OpenWetWare Discussion Mailing List > discuss at openwetware.org > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/oww-discuss > -- John Cumbers, Graduate Student in Computational Biology Brown University, Ecology and Evolutionary Biology, Box G-W 80 Waterman Street, Providence, Rhode Island, 02912, USA Tel USA: +1 401 523 8190, Fax: +1 401 863-2166 UK to USA: 0207 617 7824 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I would like to hear your comments, suggestions and criticisms on the platform. Also, I want to discuss strategies to get it populated. I am considering both top-down (faculty, well-known designer endorsement, support to trickle down) or bottom-up (students and amateur designers take it up) or both approaches for them. ? Can I come and see you some time. ? Thanks Varun ? ? ? Varun Aggarwal EECS PhD Student, MIT, http://web.mit.edu/~varun_ag/www/ MIT India Reading Group, http://scripts.mit.edu/~varun_ag/readinggroup CURE, India, www.noragging.com ? ? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 3985 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mailman.mit.edu/pipermail/oww-sc/attachments/20070202/6624881f/attachment.bin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I wonder if postgenomic has a bookmarklet. thanks, jason On 2/4/07, John Cumbers wrote: > An implementation for bookmarklets for each page of the wiki can be found at > the bottom of this page: > http://www.biodirectory.com/biowiki/Monobook_bookmarklets > cheers, > John > > -- > John Cumbers, Graduate Student in Computational Biology > Brown University, Ecology and Evolutionary Biology, Box G-W > 80 Waterman Street, Providence, Rhode Island, 02912, USA > Tel USA: +1 401 523 8190, Fax: +1 401 863-2166 > UK to USA: 0207 617 7824 > _______________________________________________ > OpenWetWare Steering Committee Mailing List > sc at openwetware.org > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/oww-sc > > From johncumbers at gmail.com Mon Feb 5 12:39:03 2007 From: johncumbers at gmail.com (John Cumbers) Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 12:39:03 -0500 Subject: [OWW-SC] bookmarklets for each page of the wiki? In-Reply-To: <7c085c480702041931t4ef39dd4m662ae3cefcb3ddc1@mail.gmail.com> References: <7c085c480702041931t4ef39dd4m662ae3cefcb3ddc1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: yeah, that's what I was thinking, I think this is along the original idea of Drew's to have a "post to nature" button. Jon Rees wrote the plug in. cheers, JOhn On 2/4/07, Jason Kelly wrote: > > that's a lot of bookmarklets. Might be cool to just pick the most > popular/relevant 3 or 4 and see what it looks like. I wonder if > postgenomic has a bookmarklet. > > thanks, > jason > > On 2/4/07, John Cumbers wrote: > > An implementation for bookmarklets for each page of the wiki can be > found at > > the bottom of this page: > > http://www.biodirectory.com/biowiki/Monobook_bookmarklets > > cheers, > > John > > > > -- > > John Cumbers, Graduate Student in Computational Biology > > Brown University, Ecology and Evolutionary Biology, Box G-W > > 80 Waterman Street, Providence, Rhode Island, 02912, USA > > Tel USA: +1 401 523 8190, Fax: +1 401 863-2166 > > UK to USA: 0207 617 7824 > > _______________________________________________ > > OpenWetWare Steering Committee Mailing List > > sc at openwetware.org > > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/oww-sc > > > > > -- John Cumbers, Graduate Student in Computational Biology Brown University, Ecology and Evolutionary Biology, Box G-W 80 Waterman Street, Providence, Rhode Island, 02912, USA Tel USA: +1 401 523 8190, Fax: +1 401 863-2166 UK to USA: 0207 617 7824 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.mit.edu/pipermail/oww-sc/attachments/20070205/9801e6d5/attachment.htm From ilyas at MIT.EDU Mon Feb 5 16:28:36 2007 From: ilyas at MIT.EDU (Ilya Sytchev) Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 16:28:36 -0500 Subject: [OWW-SC] bookmarklets for each page of the wiki? In-Reply-To: References: <7c085c480702041931t4ef39dd4m662ae3cefcb3ddc1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <45C7A184.9010909@mit.edu> "Bookmarklets" for link submission are a cool idea but adding them involves changing Monobook.php which is likely to be overwritten during Mediawiki software upgrades. I don't think Postgenomic will ever have a capability to submit URLs since they seem to get data automatically only from registered resources (blogs): http://www.postgenomic.com/wiki/doku.php?id=postgenomic_friendly Ilya John Cumbers wrote: > yeah, that's what I was thinking, I think this is along the original > idea of Drew's to have a "post to nature" button. Jon Rees wrote the > plug in. > cheers, > JOhn > > > On 2/4/07, *Jason Kelly* > wrote: > > that's a lot of bookmarklets. Might be cool to just pick the most > popular/relevant 3 or 4 and see what it looks like. I wonder if > postgenomic has a bookmarklet. > > thanks, > jason > > On 2/4/07, John Cumbers < johncumbers at gmail.com > > wrote: > > An implementation for bookmarklets for each page of the wiki can > be found at > > the bottom of this page: > > http://www.biodirectory.com/biowiki/Monobook_bookmarklets > > cheers, > > John > > > > -- > > John Cumbers, Graduate Student in Computational Biology > > Brown University, Ecology and Evolutionary Biology, Box G-W > > 80 Waterman Street, Providence, Rhode Island, 02912, USA > > Tel USA: +1 401 523 8190, Fax: +1 401 863-2166 > > UK to USA: 0207 617 7824 > > _______________________________________________ > > OpenWetWare Steering Committee Mailing List > > sc at openwetware.org > > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/oww-sc > > > > > > > > > -- > John Cumbers, Graduate Student in Computational Biology > Brown University, Ecology and Evolutionary Biology, Box G-W > 80 Waterman Street, Providence, Rhode Island, 02912, USA > Tel USA: +1 401 523 8190, Fax: +1 401 863-2166 > UK to USA: 0207 617 7824 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > OpenWetWare Steering Committee Mailing List > sc at openwetware.org > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/oww-sc From jasonk at MIT.EDU Wed Feb 7 00:52:18 2007 From: jasonk at MIT.EDU (Jason Kelly) Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 00:52:18 -0500 Subject: [OWW-SC] Next meeting Thursday Feb 15th Message-ID: <7c085c480702062152h3387f123q99b0edbbe3efb005@mail.gmail.com> Hi SC, The next SC meeting will be on Feb 15th @ Noon. This Thursday is the 2nd Thursday of the month (barely), but that fact escaped me and I didn't mail out a reminder - sorry! So we'll be meeting next Thursday to make sure that people can make it. Please email me if you can't and also if you are planning on calling in. I (and others) are concerned that the SC meetings have taken on too much of a long term planning / funding strategy character. We'd like to bring the SC back on the mission of being the voice of scientists who are using the site. It should be focused on figuring out what's missing from the site, suggesting new features, etc. At the last meeting we decided to discuss possible defined positions for SC members to help the meetings be more productive and also as a way to encourage more participation (e.g. it's easier for someone to step into a defined role than cold call into a meeting). Here's a discussion page to brainstorm positions, lets try and get a list together in time for the meeting and then we can figure out which ones make sense: http://openwetware.org/wiki/OpenWetWare:Steering_committee/What_positions_would_be_useful%3F Thanks! jason p.s. feel free to add other topics for the next meeting here: http://openwetware.org/wiki/OpenWetWare:Steering_committee_next_meeting From jasonk at MIT.EDU Wed Feb 7 19:52:26 2007 From: jasonk at MIT.EDU (Jason Kelly) Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 19:52:26 -0500 Subject: [OWW-SC] Fwd: Transfer Private to Public? In-Reply-To: <007201c74b0a$ae5d6160$0401a8c0@skochlap> References: <007201c74b0a$ae5d6160$0401a8c0@skochlap> Message-ID: <7c085c480702071652r7ea5ce09i655f8dc00c52307f@mail.gmail.com> Some use-case information from the private wiki trial (see below). Also, austin / ilya do you have a suggestion for how they should set things up to best support moving pages from private->public down the line? thanks, jason ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Steven J. Koch Date: Feb 7, 2007 5:52 PM Subject: Transfer Private to Public? To: Jason Kelly Hi Jason, I am currently working with students who are developing internal wiki pages that we will ultimately want to transfer to the public OWW site. Before they get too far, I wanted to check with you to find out if there is some particular way that we should develop private wiki pages so that it's easy to transfer them. For example: If we make a whole namespace such as "ToGoPublic/", will it then be easy to transfer a whole group of pages from the private to the public? Or are there other things we should do? Thanks for any advice here. We are slowly getting things going on the private wiki and it is very helpful. We're looking forward also to it helping us contribute to the public OWW soon. Thank you again for setting up the private wiki for us, I love it. Sincerely, Steve From yeem at MIT.EDU Wed Feb 7 20:10:37 2007 From: yeem at MIT.EDU (M. Yee) Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 20:10:37 -0500 (EST) Subject: [OWW-SC] Fwd: Transfer Private to Public? In-Reply-To: <7c085c480702071652r7ea5ce09i655f8dc00c52307f@mail.gmail.com> References: <007201c74b0a$ae5d6160$0401a8c0@skochlap> <7c085c480702071652r7ea5ce09i655f8dc00c52307f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: How about making a template like {{togopublic}} that sticks [[Category:togopublic]] and on the page? It's easier than a namespace IMHO because they can go to the aforementioned category to see a list of everything that's due to be moved, plus the pages can be put in whatever namespace they want. On Wed, 7 Feb 2007, Jason Kelly wrote: > Some use-case information from the private wiki trial (see below). > > Also, austin / ilya do you have a suggestion for how they should set > things up to best support moving pages from private->public down the > line? > > thanks, > jason > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Steven J. Koch > Date: Feb 7, 2007 5:52 PM > Subject: Transfer Private to Public? > To: Jason Kelly > > > > > > Hi Jason, > > I am currently working with students who are developing internal wiki > pages that we will ultimately want to transfer to the public OWW site. > Before they get too far, I wanted to check with you to find out if > there is some particular way that we should develop private wiki pages > so that it's easy to transfer them. For example: If we make a whole > namespace such as "ToGoPublic/", will it then be easy to transfer a > whole group of pages from the private to the public? Or are there > other things we should do? > > Thanks for any advice here. We are slowly getting things going on the > private wiki and it is very helpful. We're looking forward also to it > helping us contribute to the public OWW soon. Thank you again for > setting up the private wiki for us, I love it. > > Sincerely, > > Steve > _______________________________________________ > OpenWetWare Steering Committee Mailing List > sc at openwetware.org > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/oww-sc > From austin at csail.mit.edu Wed Feb 7 22:50:45 2007 From: austin at csail.mit.edu (Austin Che) Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 22:50:45 -0500 Subject: [OWW-SC] Fwd: Transfer Private to Public? In-Reply-To: (M. Yee's message of "Wed, 7 Feb 2007 20:10:37 -0500 (EST)") References: <007201c74b0a$ae5d6160$0401a8c0@skochlap> <7c085c480702071652r7ea5ce09i655f8dc00c52307f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <87ejp1pasq.fsf@nitsua.mit.edu> I think the best method depends on how many pages people will want to move and how they want to move it. Putting pages to be moved under a common prefix isn't necessary for moving as we can easily tack on a prefix during the move. But if it helps to recognize what should be moved, then that's fine. If it's just going to be single pages to be moved by hand, it doesn't matter much at this point whatever they do. If the pages are going to be moved once and that's it, it'd be much simpler than if pages will be moved from private to public, continued to be edited on the private, and then later moved again to public. I'm not sure about tagging with categories but if that helps them figure out what should or shouldn't be moved, then they can go for it. Just that those pages after being moved will still have those categories on them and won't make sense on the public site. Basically, it really depends on how they intend to use it. I think for most people, bulk moving of pages from private to public is unlikely (other than maybe moving the entire wiki). Moving an entire wiki is straightforward and nothing special should be done with the private wiki. For moving single pages at a time manually, I can think of also nothing that can be done now with the page to make it easier to move at a later time. Thus, I'd personally go with doing nothing special right now unless they have special needs that they forsee having. > How about making a template like {{togopublic}} that sticks > > [[Category:togopublic]] and > > > > on the page? It's easier than a namespace IMHO because they can go to the > aforementioned category to see a list of everything that's due to be > moved, plus the pages can be put in whatever namespace they want. > > On Wed, 7 Feb 2007, Jason Kelly wrote: > >> Some use-case information from the private wiki trial (see below). >> >> Also, austin / ilya do you have a suggestion for how they should set >> things up to best support moving pages from private->public down the >> line? >> >> thanks, >> jason >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Steven J. Koch >> Date: Feb 7, 2007 5:52 PM >> Subject: Transfer Private to Public? >> To: Jason Kelly >> >> Hi Jason, >> >> I am currently working with students who are developing internal wiki >> pages that we will ultimately want to transfer to the public OWW site. >> Before they get too far, I wanted to check with you to find out if >> there is some particular way that we should develop private wiki pages >> so that it's easy to transfer them. For example: If we make a whole >> namespace such as "ToGoPublic/", will it then be easy to transfer a >> whole group of pages from the private to the public? Or are there >> other things we should do? >> >> Thanks for any advice here. We are slowly getting things going on the >> private wiki and it is very helpful. We're looking forward also to it >> helping us contribute to the public OWW soon. Thank you again for >> setting up the private wiki for us, I love it. >> >> Sincerely, >> >> Steve -- Austin Che (617)253-5899 From jasonk at MIT.EDU Wed Feb 7 22:59:13 2007 From: jasonk at MIT.EDU (Jason Kelly) Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 22:59:13 -0500 Subject: [OWW-SC] Fwd: Transfer Private to Public? In-Reply-To: <87ejp1pasq.fsf@nitsua.mit.edu> References: <007201c74b0a$ae5d6160$0401a8c0@skochlap> <7c085c480702071652r7ea5ce09i655f8dc00c52307f@mail.gmail.com> <87ejp1pasq.fsf@nitsua.mit.edu> Message-ID: <7c085c480702071959i3cf49df8q3fb6df1bb243cd5c@mail.gmail.com> I could imagine people wanting to bluk-move pages. E.g. I publish a paper and then want to move everything with the prefix "ProjectName:" onto OWW in one shot - it could be a bunch of pages. If I hadn't put a prefix I assume that would be harder to do automatically? jason On 2/7/07, Austin Che wrote: > > I think the best method depends on how many pages people will want > to move and how they want to move it. Putting pages to be moved > under a common prefix isn't necessary for moving as we can easily > tack on a prefix during the move. But if it helps to recognize > what should be moved, then that's fine. If it's just going to be > single pages to be moved by hand, it doesn't matter much at this > point whatever they do. If the pages are going to be moved once > and that's it, it'd be much simpler than if pages will be moved > from private to public, continued to be edited on the private, and > then later moved again to public. I'm not sure about tagging with > categories but if that helps them figure out what should or > shouldn't be moved, then they can go for it. Just that those pages > after being moved will still have those categories on them and > won't make sense on the public site. Basically, it really depends > on how they intend to use it. > > I think for most people, bulk moving of pages from private to > public is unlikely (other than maybe moving the entire > wiki). Moving an entire wiki is straightforward and nothing > special should be done with the private wiki. For moving single > pages at a time manually, I can think of also nothing that can be > done now with the page to make it easier to move at a later > time. Thus, I'd personally go with doing nothing special right now > unless they have special needs that they forsee having. > > > How about making a template like {{togopublic}} that sticks > > > > [[Category:togopublic]] and > > > > > > > > on the page? It's easier than a namespace IMHO because they can go to the > > aforementioned category to see a list of everything that's due to be > > moved, plus the pages can be put in whatever namespace they want. > > > > On Wed, 7 Feb 2007, Jason Kelly wrote: > > > >> Some use-case information from the private wiki trial (see below). > >> > >> Also, austin / ilya do you have a suggestion for how they should set > >> things up to best support moving pages from private->public down the > >> line? > >> > >> thanks, > >> jason > >> > >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > >> From: Steven J. Koch > >> Date: Feb 7, 2007 5:52 PM > >> Subject: Transfer Private to Public? > >> To: Jason Kelly > >> > >> Hi Jason, > >> > >> I am currently working with students who are developing internal wiki > >> pages that we will ultimately want to transfer to the public OWW site. > >> Before they get too far, I wanted to check with you to find out if > >> there is some particular way that we should develop private wiki pages > >> so that it's easy to transfer them. For example: If we make a whole > >> namespace such as "ToGoPublic/", will it then be easy to transfer a > >> whole group of pages from the private to the public? Or are there > >> other things we should do? > >> > >> Thanks for any advice here. We are slowly getting things going on the > >> private wiki and it is very helpful. We're looking forward also to it > >> helping us contribute to the public OWW soon. Thank you again for > >> setting up the private wiki for us, I love it. > >> > >> Sincerely, > >> > >> Steve > > -- > Austin Che (617)253-5899 > _______________________________________________ > OpenWetWare Steering Committee Mailing List > sc at openwetware.org > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/oww-sc > From austin at csail.mit.edu Thu Feb 8 08:47:04 2007 From: austin at csail.mit.edu (Austin Che) Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 08:47:04 -0500 Subject: [OWW-SC] Fwd: Transfer Private to Public? In-Reply-To: <7c085c480702071959i3cf49df8q3fb6df1bb243cd5c@mail.gmail.com> (Jason Kelly's message of "Wed, 7 Feb 2007 22:59:13 -0500") References: <007201c74b0a$ae5d6160$0401a8c0@skochlap> <7c085c480702071652r7ea5ce09i655f8dc00c52307f@mail.gmail.com> <87ejp1pasq.fsf@nitsua.mit.edu> <7c085c480702071959i3cf49df8q3fb6df1bb243cd5c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <87irecoj6v.fsf@nitsua.mit.edu> "Jason Kelly" croaked crazily: > I could imagine people wanting to bluk-move pages. E.g. I publish a > paper and then want to move everything with the prefix "ProjectName:" > onto OWW in one shot - it could be a bunch of pages. If I hadn't put > a prefix I assume that would be harder to do automatically? I'm not sure how likely this scenario is. It seems amazing that someone could figure out beforehand which pages will be part of a paper to be made public. But ultimately they need to get a list of pages they want moved. However, they want to do it is fine. Prefixing page titles is fine if they want. If all the pages linked to a certain page, and they use the 'what links here' function, that'd work too. -- Austin Che (617)253-5899 From johncumbers at gmail.com Thu Feb 8 12:06:19 2007 From: johncumbers at gmail.com (John Cumbers) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 12:06:19 -0500 Subject: [OWW-SC] Fwd: Transfer Private to Public? In-Reply-To: <87irecoj6v.fsf@nitsua.mit.edu> References: <007201c74b0a$ae5d6160$0401a8c0@skochlap> <7c085c480702071652r7ea5ce09i655f8dc00c52307f@mail.gmail.com> <87ejp1pasq.fsf@nitsua.mit.edu> <7c085c480702071959i3cf49df8q3fb6df1bb243cd5c@mail.gmail.com> <87irecoj6v.fsf@nitsua.mit.edu> Message-ID: I'd also imagine this happening, for example it would be great to publish pages of you lab book during the time you did the experiments, or your notes on the experiments for others to see. cheers, John On 2/8/07, Austin Che wrote: > > "Jason Kelly" croaked crazily: > > > I could imagine people wanting to bluk-move pages. E.g. I publish a > > paper and then want to move everything with the prefix "ProjectName:" > > onto OWW in one shot - it could be a bunch of pages. If I hadn't put > > a prefix I assume that would be harder to do automatically? > > I'm not sure how likely this scenario is. It seems amazing that > someone could figure out beforehand which pages will be part of a > paper to be made public. But ultimately they need to get a list of > pages they want moved. However, they want to do it is > fine. Prefixing page titles is fine if they want. If all the pages > linked to a certain page, and they use the 'what links here' > function, that'd work too. > > -- > Austin Che (617)253-5899 > _______________________________________________ > OpenWetWare Steering Committee Mailing List > sc at openwetware.org > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/oww-sc > -- John Cumbers, Graduate Student in Computational Biology Brown University, Ecology and Evolutionary Biology, Box G-W 80 Waterman Street, Providence, Rhode Island, 02912, USA Tel USA: +1 401 523 8190, Fax: +1 401 863-2166 UK to USA: 0207 617 7824 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.mit.edu/pipermail/oww-sc/attachments/20070208/e22256f7/attachment.htm From jasonk at MIT.EDU Fri Feb 9 18:21:06 2007 From: jasonk at MIT.EDU (Jason Kelly) Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 18:21:06 -0500 Subject: [OWW-SC] SC meeting Friday at Noon in 68-151 (DATE CHANGE) Message-ID: <7c085c480702091521q326a596flef30643c2714a22c@mail.gmail.com> Hi folks, SC meeting will be FRIDAY, the 16th. Apologies for the change, with the term starting getting rooms is a little more challenging. We can get a conference call enabled room M/W/F at 12-1 for the spring term, so we're going to move to one of those days. I'm proposing the 1st Friday of the month Noon-1 as the new time. Email me if that won't work for you (and tell me if M or W would be better). Reminder: fill in proposed SC positions here before the meeting: http://openwetware.org/wiki/OpenWetWare:Steering_committee/What_positions_would_be_useful%3F Add to the agenda here: http://openwetware.org/wiki/OpenWetWare:Steering_committee_next_meeting Thanks! jason From jasonk at MIT.EDU Sat Feb 10 12:38:20 2007 From: jasonk at MIT.EDU (Jason Kelly) Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 12:38:20 -0500 Subject: [OWW-SC] Fwd: Fwd: Transfer Private to Public? In-Reply-To: <000001c74d39$271bdac0$6901a8c0@skochlap> References: <7c085c480702080630p78de1c30hb5eaaa55361f2d0b@mail.gmail.com> <000001c74d39$271bdac0$6901a8c0@skochlap> Message-ID: <7c085c480702100938r9d5afb6rdf509cf75e2fe560@mail.gmail.com> More on private wikis. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Steven J. Koch Date: Feb 10, 2007 12:30 PM Subject: RE: [OWW-SC] Fwd: Transfer Private to Public? To: Jason Kelly , austin at csail.mit.edu Thanks everyone for the suggestions. I think we will use the category suggestion and then after the transfer delete the tags from the pages. My intention is to just get the pages in a reasonable form and then transfer them over one time only. I have some young people sketching them out and I think it will be too much to sketch them out from scratch on the real OWW. And yes, that scares me a little too, as I am still new to it, but I do see that it would be fine and at the most possibly instructional and not bad. One thing that has really surprised me is that almost all of the students are afraid to write anything on the public wiki for our course (PHYC500). I had incorrectly assumed that in the age of myspace people would be all over it. Huh. I guess I need to tie OWW contributions to their grade. OK, thanks for the advice, Steve -----Original Message----- From: jrkelly at gmail.com [mailto:jrkelly at gmail.com] On Behalf Of Jason Kelly Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 7:30 AM To: Steven J. Koch Subject: Fwd: [OWW-SC] Fwd: Transfer Private to Public? Hi Steve, See comments below. So it looks like it will depend on how you're planning to move the pages in the end. Do you expect to move a bunch of pages at once? Or will you be moving certain pages at certain times. If you are going to do a bulk move then I think a prefix would help('ToGoPublic:'), but if you are going to do them individually then it probably doesn't matter so long as you can find what you want to move when the time comes. One option to help you do that would be to tag them all with a category (as Mike Yee suggests below.) Thanks, jason ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Austin Che Date: Feb 7, 2007 10:50 PM Subject: Re: [OWW-SC] Fwd: Transfer Private to Public? To: oww-sc I think the best method depends on how many pages people will want to move and how they want to move it. Putting pages to be moved under a common prefix isn't necessary for moving as we can easily tack on a prefix during the move. But if it helps to recognize what should be moved, then that's fine. If it's just going to be single pages to be moved by hand, it doesn't matter much at this point whatever they do. If the pages are going to be moved once and that's it, it'd be much simpler than if pages will be moved from private to public, continued to be edited on the private, and then later moved again to public. I'm not sure about tagging with categories but if that helps them figure out what should or shouldn't be moved, then they can go for it. Just that those pages after being moved will still have those categories on them and won't make sense on the public site. Basically, it really depends on how they intend to use it. I think for most people, bulk moving of pages from private to public is unlikely (other than maybe moving the entire wiki). Moving an entire wiki is straightforward and nothing special should be done with the private wiki. For moving single pages at a time manually, I can think of also nothing that can be done now with the page to make it easier to move at a later time. Thus, I'd personally go with doing nothing special right now unless they have special needs that they forsee having. > How about making a template like {{togopublic}} that sticks > > [[Category:togopublic]] and > > > > on the page? It's easier than a namespace IMHO because they can go to the > aforementioned category to see a list of everything that's due to be > moved, plus the pages can be put in whatever namespace they want. > From endy at MIT.EDU Thu Feb 15 13:20:31 2007 From: endy at MIT.EDU (Drew Endy) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 13:20:31 -0500 Subject: [OWW-SC] check out the photo Message-ID: http://www.berkeley.edu/news/berkeleyan/2007/02/14_open_access.shtml From jasonk at MIT.EDU Fri Feb 16 08:49:05 2007 From: jasonk at MIT.EDU (Jason Kelly) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 08:49:05 -0500 Subject: [OWW-SC] Meeting today @ Noon, 68-151 Message-ID: <7c085c480702160549r2dabb049k9e793a87c31ca681@mail.gmail.com> Hi Folks, Reminder that the SC meeting is today at Noon, lunch provided. We're going to try and use the MIT system to improve the audio quality at the meeting, so if you're calling in please dial 617-452-5196 at ~11:50. Please add suggested topics here: http://openwetware.org/wiki/OpenWetWare:Steering_committee_next_meeting Also, we'll discuss creating positions for the SC, so please add suggestions here: http://openwetware.org/wiki/OpenWetWare:Steering_committee/What_positions_would_be_useful%3F Thanks, Jason From austin at csail.mit.edu Fri Feb 16 13:25:48 2007 From: austin at csail.mit.edu (Austin Che) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 13:25:48 -0500 Subject: [OWW-SC] embedding IRC into mediawiki Message-ID: <87d54agdsj.fsf@nitsua.mit.edu> http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Projetos/Chat_(en) -- Austin Che (617)253-5899 From austin at csail.mit.edu Fri Feb 16 13:34:15 2007 From: austin at csail.mit.edu (Austin Che) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 13:34:15 -0500 Subject: [OWW-SC] embedding IRC into mediawiki In-Reply-To: <87d54agdsj.fsf@nitsua.mit.edu> (Austin Che's message of "Fri, 16 Feb 2007 13:25:48 -0500") References: <87d54agdsj.fsf@nitsua.mit.edu> Message-ID: <871wkqgdeg.fsf@nitsua.mit.edu> Actually this looks cool. It's not IRC but it seems to work great. It doesn't even need java. http://www.phpfreechat.net/demo.en.html -- Austin Che (617)253-5899 From jasonk at MIT.EDU Fri Feb 16 20:50:21 2007 From: jasonk at MIT.EDU (Jason Kelly) Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 20:50:21 -0500 Subject: [OWW-SC] Today's SC meeting notes and discussions Message-ID: <7c085c480702161750m16e4a704ne821a06b88925f7a@mail.gmail.com> Hi SC, The meeting notes are here: http://openwetware.org/wiki/OpenWetWare:Steering_committee/Meeting_-_February_2007 - for those of you not at the meeting please contact me if you have questions/concerns about the OWW board that is being established (see notes). We want to make sure it makes sense for the community and folks are happy with it. The action list for next meeting is here: http://openwetware.org/wiki/OpenWetWare:Steering_committee_actions - please contribute to filling out the SC position descriptions (or add new positions) and feel free to volunteer. When the descriptions are complete we'll advertise them to the discuss list and on the main page, so if you have some time to edit, the sooner we specify these the better: http://openwetware.org/wiki/OpenWetWare:Steering_committee/What_positions_would_be_useful%3F - Also Austin, if you could flesh out your web of public wikis idea, I created a discussion page for it here: http://openwetware.org/index.php?title=OpenWetWare:Steering_committee/Is_a_web_of_independent_public_wikis_a_good_idea%3F&action=edit Thanks everyone who came by and called in. Please add anything I've missed to the wiki pages. Thanks, Jason From macowell at gmail.com Sat Feb 17 15:19:44 2007 From: macowell at gmail.com (Mackenzie Cowell) Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 15:19:44 -0500 Subject: [OWW-SC] $200k NSF SGER grant for Wiki research to U of Colorado Message-ID: <54746a3f0702171219v3811c71aj8c93f476db85a805@mail.gmail.com> I just read that the University of Colorado was awarded a $200,000 SGER grant from the NSF to develop "A New Generation Wiki for Supporting a Research Community in Creativity and IT." Based on their abstract (excerpt below) it sounds like they are trying to develop a wiki framework that would be a boon to oww. Should we touch base with them? The proposed research will create environments that go beyond existing Wikis (being primarily focused on hypertext) to permit the integration (not just attachment) of other forms of media ranging from movies and animations, to sharing of datasets, to the creation and utilization of social network information to support community interaction, to conceptual mind-mapping media. Mac -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mailman.mit.edu/pipermail/oww-sc/attachments/20070217/d1b0f32f/attachment.htm From johncumbers at gmail.com Sat Feb 17 18:27:43 2007 From: johncumbers at gmail.com (John Cumbers) Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 18:27:43 -0500 Subject: [OWW-SC] $200k NSF SGER grant for Wiki research to U of Colorado In-Reply-To: <54746a3f0702171219v3811c71aj8c93f476db85a805@mail.gmail.com> References: <54746a3f0702171219v3811c71aj8c93f476db85a805@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: hey, yeah, I think you should drop them a note Mac, cheers, John On 2/17/07, Mackenzie Cowell wrote: > > I just readthat the University of Colorado was awarded a $200,000 SGER grant from the > NSF to develop " A New Generation Wiki for Supporting a Research Community > in Creativity and IT." > Based on their abstract (excerpt below) it sounds like they are trying to > develop a wiki framework that would be a boon to oww. Should we touch base > with them? > > The proposed research will create environments that go beyond existing > Wikis (being primarily focused on hypertext) to permit the integration (not > just attachment) of other forms of media ranging from movies and animations, > to sharing of datasets, to the creation and utilization of social network > information to support community interaction, to conceptual mind-mapping > media. > > Mac > > _______________________________________________ > OpenWetWare Steering Committee Mailing List > sc at openwetware.org > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/oww-sc > > -- John Cumbers, Graduate Student in Computational Biology Brown University, Ecology and Evolutionary Biology, Box G-W 80 Waterman Street, Providence, Rhode Island, 02912, USA Tel USA: +1 401 523 8190, Fax: +1 401 863-2166 UK to USA: 0207 617 7824 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Message-ID: <2b0cb7a10702201203l7aad9fc8x25b33e2cc16142d6@mail.gmail.com> Already sent a response. thanks, sri On 2/20/07, Drew Endy wrote: > > > Begin forwarded message: > > From: "Keim, Brandon" > Date: February 20, 2007 12:47:10 PM EST > To: > Cc: , > Subject: OpenWetWare logo request > > > > > Hello, > > > > I was wondering if it would be possible to get a high-resolution version of > the OpenWetWare logo (the one from the upper-left of the website, without > the text) for the wiki news article discussing OWW? We're closing the issue > today, so if it's possible on such short notice, very much appreciated! > > > > Thanks, > > > > Brandon > > > > Nature Medicine > > 627.233.5346 > > b.keim at natureny.com > > > _______________________________________________ > OpenWetWare Steering Committee Mailing List > sc at openwetware.org > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/oww-sc > >