From mattias.rantalainen at imperial.ac.uk  Thu Aug  2 09:47:22 2007
From: mattias.rantalainen at imperial.ac.uk (Rantalainen, Mattias J)
Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 14:47:22 +0100
Subject: [OWW-SC] BBSRC data sharing policy
References: <cfd758050707300707h1547a311nd5a5a671851409a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C19C771B6FC9B2409F6715B56C3BA25001670095@icex2.ic.ac.uk>

Hi all,

I finally got hold of Jef Grainger today who is the contact person for the new data sharing policy at BBSRC. The policy itself can be found here:
http://www.bbsrc.ac.uk/support/guidelines/datasharing/context.html

Generally it is fair to say it is written quite unspecific, and Jef confirms that this has been a deliberate move from BBSRC. Essentially they expect grant applicants to adopt current best practice for sharing data, and they are mainly expecting experimentalist who generate high-throughput data (omics/systems biology etc) to explicitly state how they will share their data.

The first round of applications that will come in after the policy was adopted is in August, so BBSRC will basically wait and see how it will go regarding the statements of data sharing, which are now mandatory in the grant applications.

Later this year the BBSRC will establish an internal monitor group which will assess the outcome of the policy, and we as OWW should be able to come into contact with this group when it is formed. This appear to be the  next step to start a discussion with BBSRC on how OWW can contribute and comply in with the policy and if their will be more specific requirements further down the line.


-BBSRC do allow grant applicants to claim costs for data sharing (i.e. if OWW would charge a fee from registered labs, that would fit in with a BBSRC grant)

-At the moment the policy is mainly directed at sharing (raw) data, and less in regard to know-how, protocols etc.

-Very few specifications are outlined at the moment, so no direct requirements are stated outside the expected adoption of current best practice.

-Regarding direct funding for service providers, the conventional routes of applying for grants for bioinformatics tools and resources appear to be the way to go at the moment. (EPSRC appear to be funding more of this type of projects than BBSRC)


So the policy is pretty much in development at the moment, later this year or early next year there will probably be more specifics to discuss with BBSRC after they have done their initial evaluation. 

Cheers,
/Mattias



-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Mon 7/30/2007 3:07 PM
To: oww-sc
Subject: [OWW-SC] European Commission Survey into Digital Repositories
 
Hi all, 
Who's remit would this fall under?
Did Vincent or Matteus follow up on the BBSRC's requirement for
digital storage in the end?
cheers,
 John


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From jasonk at MIT.EDU  Thu Aug  2 23:51:12 2007
From: jasonk at MIT.EDU (Jason Kelly)
Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 23:51:12 -0400
Subject: [OWW-SC] BBSRC data sharing policy
In-Reply-To: <C19C771B6FC9B2409F6715B56C3BA25001670095@icex2.ic.ac.uk>
References: <cfd758050707300707h1547a311nd5a5a671851409a@mail.gmail.com>
	<C19C771B6FC9B2409F6715B56C3BA25001670095@icex2.ic.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <7c085c480708022051q54fa94e2r6246b43f88c6d7f8@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Mattias,

Looks like it's worth keeping an eye on it as it gets more developed.
Thanks a lot for following up, and let us know when the 'monitor group'
comes online so we can revisit the conversation.

Thanks,
jason

On 8/2/07, Rantalainen, Mattias J <mattias.rantalainen at imperial.ac.uk>
wrote:
>
>  Hi all,
>
> I finally got hold of Jef Grainger today who is the contact person for the
> new data sharing policy at BBSRC. The policy itself can be found here:
> http://www.bbsrc.ac.uk/support/guidelines/datasharing/context.html
>
> Generally it is fair to say it is written quite unspecific, and Jef
> confirms that this has been a deliberate move from BBSRC. Essentially they
> expect grant applicants to adopt current best practice for sharing data, and
> they are mainly expecting experimentalist who generate high-throughput data
> (omics/systems biology etc) to explicitly state how they will share their
> data.
>
> The first round of applications that will come in after the policy was
> adopted is in August, so BBSRC will basically wait and see how it will go
> regarding the statements of data sharing, which are now mandatory in the
> grant applications.
>
> Later this year the BBSRC will establish an internal monitor group which
> will assess the outcome of the policy, and we as OWW should be able to come
> into contact with this group when it is formed. This appear to be the  next
> step to start a discussion with BBSRC on how OWW can contribute and comply
> in with the policy and if their will be more specific requirements further
> down the line.
>
>
> -BBSRC do allow grant applicants to claim costs for data sharing (i.e. if
> OWW would charge a fee from registered labs, that would fit in with a BBSRC
> grant)
>
> -At the moment the policy is mainly directed at sharing (raw) data, and
> less in regard to know-how, protocols etc.
>
> -Very few specifications are outlined at the moment, so no direct
> requirements are stated outside the expected adoption of current best
> practice.
>
> -Regarding direct funding for service providers, the conventional routes
> of applying for grants for bioinformatics tools and resources appear to be
> the way to go at the moment. (EPSRC appear to be funding more of this type
> of projects than BBSRC)
>
>
> So the policy is pretty much in development at the moment, later this year
> or early next year there will probably be more specifics to discuss with
> BBSRC after they have done their initial evaluation.
>
> Cheers,
> /Mattias
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: oww-sc-bounces at mit.edu on behalf of John Cumbers
> Sent: Mon 7/30/2007 3:07 PM
> To: oww-sc
> Subject: [OWW-SC] European Commission Survey into Digital Repositories
>
> Hi all,
> Who's remit would this fall under?
> Did Vincent or Matteus follow up on the BBSRC's requirement for
> digital storage in the end?
> cheers,
>  John
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: news at bioinformatics.org <news at bioinformatics.org>
> Date: Jul 25, 2007 8:19 PM
> Subject: [BiO News] European Commission Survey into Digital Repositories
> To: john at cumbers.com
>
> Bioinformatics.Org News & Commentary
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> European Commission Survey into Digital Repositories
> Submitted by Damian Counsell; posted on Thursday, July 26, 2007
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> The European Commission is keen to hear from everyone involved in
> digital repositories: users, curators, techies, funders,
> administrators, depositors.
>
> Take part in its new survey and your input will help to shape
> important decisions about how European resources will be directed in
> the future---and you will also be able to find out what others think.
> Visit the questionnaire to take part:
> http://ec.europa.eu/yourvoice/ipm/forms/dispatch?form=eSciDR
>
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>
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> --
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> Brown University, Box G-W
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From jasonk at MIT.EDU  Fri Aug  3 01:46:58 2007
From: jasonk at MIT.EDU (Jason Kelly)
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 01:46:58 -0400
Subject: [OWW-SC] August SC meeting recap
Message-ID: <7c085c480708022246n63558c37wd3e9a0d5065b9706@mail.gmail.com>

Hi SC,

Thanks everyone for calling in yesterday - nice turnout!  For those who
couldn't make it, notes are here:
http://openwetware.org/wiki/OpenWetWare:Steering_committee/Meeting_-_August_2007


action list here:
http://openwetware.org/wiki/OpenWetWare:Steering_committee_actions

Also, we spent some time brainstorming details of some of the features,
notes for that were put directly on the feature pages:
http://openwetware.org/wiki/OpenWetWare:Feature_list

Please take a look at the list of features and sign up for any of them you
are interested in (or just post comments), we're hoping to be rolling some
of them out soon with the help of Bill Flanagan (the new OWW Senior Tech
Developer who'll be starting next week).  Your input will be instrumental in
making these tools useful to the community, so don't be hesitant to chime
in.

Lastly, if you'd be interested in posting to the SC blog (
http://blog.openwetware.org), or in starting your own blog, please email me.

thanks!
jason
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From rshetty at MIT.EDU  Tue Aug  7 11:35:03 2007
From: rshetty at MIT.EDU (Reshma Shetty)
Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 11:35:03 -0400
Subject: [OWW-SC] updated mission statement
Message-ID: <6e9f40380708070835j25a89dedydd36413f18d5313b@mail.gmail.com>

Hey all,

As discussed in the last steering committee meeting, I wrote a
proposed update to the OpenWetWare mission statement.  Since I didn't
receive any objections, I've gone ahead and made it live.

http://openwetware.org/wiki/OpenWetWare:Mission

You are still welcome to send me feedback via email or add comments to
http://openwetware.org/wiki/OpenWetWare_talk:Mission

Hopefully this expanded mission statement should make it easier to
prioritize tasks and allocate resources in future meetings.

Thanks,

Reshma


From jasonk at MIT.EDU  Fri Aug 31 13:35:32 2007
From: jasonk at MIT.EDU (Jason Kelly)
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 13:35:32 -0400
Subject: [OWW-SC] SC Meeting next Thursday (9/6) @ Noon
Message-ID: <7c085c480708311035s144b4c0cl3372128594b1090b@mail.gmail.com>

Hi SC,

Reminder that the SC meeting is coming up on the 1st TH of the month
(9/6) at Noon EST.

Chairs fill in your reports here:
http://openwetware.org/wiki/OpenWetWare:Steering_committee/Meeting_-_September_2007

Please add items to the agenda:
http://openwetware.org/wiki/OpenWetWare:Steering_committee_next_meeting

Or take a look at action list from last month for left over to-do items.
http://openwetware.org/wiki/OpenWetWare:Steering_committee_actions

Number is 617-324-7520, and austin can send out details for people using sip.

Thanks!
jason