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I'd like to point out that we could also chat about this in real time. See <a href="http://openwetware.org/wiki/Help:Chat">http://openwetware.org/wiki/Help:Chat</a> for instructions on how to set up a client to use the openwetware chat server. <div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>Brian Bishop and I are sitting in on the chat room at <a href="mailto:lounge@openwetware.org">lounge@openwetware.org</a> .</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>Cheers,</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>Julius</div><div><br><div> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><div>---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------</div><div>Please Reply to My Permanent Address: <a href="mailto:julius@younglucks.com">julius@younglucks.com</a></div><div><a href="http://www.openwetware.org/wiki/User:Julius_B._Lucks">http://www.openwetware.org/wiki/User:Julius_B._Lucks</a></div><div>----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><br class="khtml-block-placeholder"></div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></span></span></span></span></span> </div><br><div><div>On Mar 31, 2008, at 2:38 PM, Jason Morrison wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div class="gmail_quote"><div>Nothing is occcluded. It's invisible to lab websites as well since the tag is bracketed by "<wikionly>" tags.<br> </div><div>(...)<br>This isn't a popup. It's a section of the page that's invisible to returning visitors. In other words, the "visiblility" attribute is by default set to 'invisible'.</div></div> </blockquote><div><br>Bill, this sounds great, then! :) I think the overall idea is worth pursuing, and will be valuable to OWW.<br><br>I'll take a minute to explain my SEO pedantry:<br><br>Unfortunately, we can't count on spiders to appropriately deal with a "visibility: none" attribute. So, if the markup is something like:<br> <br><p style="visibility: none;">OpenWetWare is an effort to promote the sharing of information, know-how, and wisdom among researchers and groups who are working in biology & biological engineering</p><br> <p>Plaque assay for gHV-68 using 3T12 fibroblasts.</p><br> <br>then it's possible that the Google search result looks like:<br><br><b>GHV-68 Plaque Assay </b>- OpenWetWare<br>OpenWetWare is an effort to promote the sharing of information, know-how, and wisdom among researchers and groups who are working...<br><span class="a"><a href="http://openwetware.org/wiki/GHV-68_Plaque_Assay">openwetware.org/wiki/GHV-68_Plaque_Assay</a><b><br><br></b>rather than the current result (<a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=GHV-68%20Plaque%20Assay">http://www.google.com/search?q=GHV-68%20Plaque%20Assay</a>) with a more targeted description line.<br> <br>Also, we probably can't rely on the search engines to establish a session, so they are fed a visible branding section anyhow.<br><br>I'd suggest that </span><span class="a">OWW.org suppress the branding information</span><span class="a"> for search engines, say by identifying the User-Agent field in the HTTP request (see something like <a href="http://www.pgts.com.au/download/data/robots_list.txt">http://www.pgts.com.au/download/data/robots_list.txt</a>, or just look for bot/spider/crawler in the UA field.) I imagine that this is convenient to do at the same time as when you check for a session.</span><span class="a"></span><br> <span class="a"><br>Again, I think this is a great idea to support the OWW branding, and just don't want to see the organic search value drop as a result.<br><br>Cheers,<br>Jason<br></span></div></div><br>-- <br>Jason Morrison<br> <a href="mailto:jason.p.morrison@gmail.com">jason.p.morrison@gmail.com</a><br><a href="http://jayunit.net">http://jayunit.net</a><br>(585) 216-5657 <div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">_______________________________________________</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">OpenWetWare Discussion Mailing List</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><a href="mailto:discuss@openwetware.org">discuss@openwetware.org</a></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><a href="http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/oww-discuss">http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/oww-discuss</a></div> </blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>