<span class="gmail_quote"></span><br><div><div><span class="e" id="q_118e630cd2b4bedc_1"><span class="gmail_quote">On 25/03/2008, <b class="gmail_sendername">Austin Che</b> <<a href="mailto:austin@csail.mit.edu" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">austin@csail.mit.edu</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<br> > a) grab all the data from the PDB (for example)<br> > b) stick all the data into a revisioning system<br> > c) allow users to freely edit the data, including automatic clean up 'bots',<br> > algorithms, etc., etc.<br>
> d) have all changes automatically emailed to a mailing list for community<br> > review, approval etc.<br> ><br> > Now, once we get to step d, in the time since step a, the PDB data has been<br> > updated by the PDB. We now need to merge the updated PDB data with our<br>
> independently modified data. (This is where we need to go beyond a simple<br> > revisioning system).<br> <br> <br> That was supposed to be the goal of wikiproteins<br> <a href="http://www.wikiproteins.org/Meta:Wikiproteins" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://www.wikiproteins.org/Meta:Wikiproteins</a><br>
Roughly speaking, it does exactly the above. It works with<br> databases like swiss-prot and downloads all the data into a<br> semantic wiki form allowing edits. The changes made by the<br> community can be kept separate from the "authoritative" version<br>
and periodically it's sent back to the original source for<br> updating. At least that's the idea. They collaborate with those<br> databases so not all of the databases are resisting this idea.</blockquote>
</span></div><div><br><br>Yeah, I like the idea, and its good to see database developers on board with that project. I spent some time hanging out near some wikiproteins developers (as close as I could get) in irc://irc.freenode.net/#omegawiki - I was disappointed at their lack of communication. For example, I have worked on a Swiss-Prot parser, so I was curious as to how they had decided to relationally model the data (if at all), but I couldn't get any feed back from them. Perhaps I was in the wrong place / asking the wrong questions / etc.<br>
<br>Also some of the concepts that they expound at wikiproteins are really confusing, and so far they have not decided to answer my questions about them. For example, <br><br><a href="http://www.wikiproteins.org/Partner_talk:Knewco" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://www.wikiproteins.org/Partner_talk:Knewco</a><br>
<a href="http://www.wikiproteins.org/Meta_talk:Wikiproteins" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://www.wikiproteins.org/Meta_talk:Wikiproteins</a><br><br><a href="http://www.wikiproteins.org/Meta_talk:Personal_Desktop" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://www.wikiproteins.org/Meta_talk:Personal_Desktop</a><br>
<a href="http://www.wikiproteins.org/Meta_talk:Alerts" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://www.wikiproteins.org/Meta_talk:Alerts</a><br><br><br>I am sure wikiproteins will deliver, I am just not sure when (or what really)... Did anyone try the new beta release?<br>
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<br></div><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> --<span class="q"><br> <span id="st" name="st" class="st">Austin</span> Che <<a href="mailto:austin@csail.mit.edu" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"><span id="st" name="st" class="st">austin</span>@csail.mit.edu</a>> (617)253-5899<br>
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