[miso-users] paired end vs. single end modes

Alborz Mazloomian a.mazloomian at gmail.com
Fri Oct 2 15:43:13 EDT 2015


Dear Delong,

Thanks for the reply. Your explanation totally makes sense, but I'm asking
about something else. If you look at the annotation files, the two isoforms
do not overlap at all (they are alternative last exons) in the examples, so
it is not the matter of deciding one isoform versus the other. Other than
that the assignment of reads to isoforms are more or less similar (the
ratio), so I don't think your example could describe why the differences in
PSI values  happen.

Best,
Alborz


On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 9:20 AM, Zhou Delong <Delong.Zhou at usherbrooke.ca>
wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Yarden or anybody on the ML, please correct me if I'm wrong but here is my
> explaintion for part of your question:
>
> Say we have a pair of reads​ that each of them is within one exon: left in
> e1, right in e2 (cf attached)
>
> If you use single end mode, the left read will support two isoforms
> (e1-e2-e3 & e1-e3) while the right read will support the long isoform only.
>
> However in paired end mode, there is only one read that supports only the
> long isoform.
>
> In fact, when you use single end mode for paired end sequencing, you lose
> the information that the two reads are linked and come from the same
> transcript. This can can affect reads assignment like in the case I
> described above and other sorts of cases.
>
> As why most affected events have a huge difference in isoform length, I
> guess longer each exon, larger the chances you got something like my
> exemple happenning in your reads.
>
> Best,
>
> Delong
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *De :* miso-users-bounces at mit.edu <miso-users-bounces at mit.edu> de la part
> de Alborz Mazloomian <a.mazloomian at gmail.com>
> *Envoyé :* 30 septembre 2015 18:59
> *À :* miso-users at mit.edu
> *Objet :* [miso-users] paired end vs. single end modes
>
> Dear Yarden,
>
> I have a question regarding paired end versus single end options. I have
> paired end libraries and I use the annotation files that are provided in
> Miso webpage.
>
> As suggested in the documentation (possibility of missing events having
> short length in paired end mode), I tried both single end and paired end
> modes. I realized that single end mode could detect more events with a
> descent overlap with paired end results (considering diff cutoff of 0.1 for
> both options)
>
> However, when I check the events that are detected in paired-end mode but
> not in single end mode, I find that they have big bayes factors, but the
> difference in PSIs is small. It mostly happens for regions where there is a
> huge difference between isoform lengths (isoform1 vs. isoform2). Please
> have a look at the two examples below:
> --------------------------------------------------
> Example 1:
> annotation:
> chrX    ALE    gene    54094757    54200579    .    -    .
> ID=54954 at uc004dta.2@uc004dsz.2;Name=54954 at uc004dta.2
> @uc004dsz.2;gid=54954 at uc004dta.2@uc004dsz.2
> chrX    ALE    mRNA    54094757    54099720    .    -    .
> ID=54954 at uc004dta.2@uc004dsz.2.B;Parent=54954 at uc004dta.2
> @uc004dsz.2;Name=54954 at uc004dta.2@uc004dsz.2.B;gid=54954 at uc004dta.2
> @uc004dsz.2
> chrX    ALE    exon    54094757    54099720    .    -    .
> ID=54954 at uc004dta.2@uc004dsz.2.B.0;Parent=54954 at uc004dta.2
> @uc004dsz.2.B;Name=54954 at uc004dta.2@uc004dsz.2.B.0;gid=54954 at uc004dta.2
> @uc004dsz.2
> chrX    ALE    mRNA    54200222    54200579    .    -    .
> ID=54954 at uc004dta.2@uc004dsz.2.A;Parent=54954 at uc004dta.2
> @uc004dsz.2;Name=54954 at uc004dta.2@uc004dsz.2.A;gid=54954 at uc004dta.2
> @uc004dsz.2
> chrX    ALE    exon    54200222    54200579    .    -    .
> ID=54954 at uc004dta.2@uc004dsz.2.A.0;Parent=54954 at uc004dta.2
> @uc004dsz.2.A;Name=54954 at uc004dta.2@uc004dsz.2.A.0;gid=54954 at uc004dta.2
> @uc004dsz.2
>
> paired end:
> 54954 at uc004dta.2@uc004dsz.2    0.98    0.93    1.0    0.42    0.35
> 0.5    0.56    1000000000000.0    ('54954 at uc004dta.2@uc004dsz.2.B.0',
> '54954 at uc004dta.2@uc004dsz.2.A.0')    (0,0):1063,(1,0):1494    0:1494
> (0,0):603,(0,1):41,(1,0):855    0:855,1:41    chrX    NA    (54094757,
> 54200222)    (54099720, 54200579)
>
> single end:
> 54954 at uc004dta.2@uc004dsz.2    1.00    1.00    1.00    0.94    0.93
> 0.95    0.06    1000000000000.00    '54954 at uc004dta.2
> @uc004dsz.2.B.0','54954 at uc004dta.2@uc004dsz.2.A.0'
> (0,0):2168,(0,1):6,(1,0):30720:3072,1:6
> (0,0):1245,(0,1):109,(1,0):1746    0:1746,1:109    chrX    NA
> 54094757,54200222    54099720,54200579
>
> ----------------------------------------------
> Example 2:
> chr9    ALE    gene    126141933    126164191    .    -    .
> ID=57706 at uc004boa.1uc004bob.1
> @uc010mwh.1uc004bny.1uc004bnz.1;Name=57706 at uc004boa.1uc004bob.1
> @uc010mwh.1uc004bny.1uc004bnz.1;gid=57706 at uc004boa.1uc004bob.1
> @uc010mwh.1uc004bny.1uc004bnz.1
> chr9    ALE    mRNA    126141933    126144904    .    -    .
> ID=57706 at uc004boa.1uc004bob.1
> @uc010mwh.1uc004bny.1uc004bnz.1.B;Parent=57706 at uc004boa.1uc004bob.1
> @uc010mwh.1uc004bny.1uc004bnz.1;Name=57706 at uc004boa.1uc004bob.1
> @uc010mwh.1uc004bny.1uc004bnz.1.B;gid=57706 at uc004boa.1uc004bob.1
> @uc010mwh.1uc004bny.1uc004bnz.1
> chr9    ALE    exon    126141933    126144904    .    -    .
> ID=57706 at uc004boa.1uc004bob.1
> @uc010mwh.1uc004bny.1uc004bnz.1.B.0;Parent=57706 at uc004boa.1uc004bob.1
> @uc010mwh.1uc004bny.1uc004bnz.1.B;Name=57706 at uc004boa.1uc004bob.1
> @uc010mwh.1uc004bny.1uc004bnz.1.B.0;gid=57706 at uc004boa.1uc004bob.1
> @uc010mwh.1uc004bny.1uc004bnz.1
> chr9    ALE    mRNA    126163870    126164191    .    -    .
> ID=57706 at uc004boa.1uc004bob.1
> @uc010mwh.1uc004bny.1uc004bnz.1.A;Parent=57706 at uc004boa.1uc004bob.1
> @uc010mwh.1uc004bny.1uc004bnz.1;Name=57706 at uc004boa.1uc004bob.1
> @uc010mwh.1uc004bny.1uc004bnz.1.A;gid=57706 at uc004boa.1uc004bob.1
> @uc010mwh.1uc004bny.1uc004bnz.1
> chr9    ALE    exon    126163870    126164191    .    -    .
> ID=57706 at uc004boa.1uc004bob.1
> @uc010mwh.1uc004bny.1uc004bnz.1.A.0;Parent=57706 at uc004boa.1uc004bob.1
> @uc010mwh.1uc004bny.1uc004bnz.1.A;Name=57706 at uc004boa.1uc004bob.1
> @uc010mwh.1uc004bny.1uc004bnz.1.A.0;gid=57706 at uc004boa.1uc004bob.1
> @uc010mwh.1uc004bny.1uc004bnz.1
>
>
> paired end:
> 57706 at uc004boa.1uc004bob.1@uc010mwh.1uc004bny.1uc004bnz.1    0.36
> 0.3    0.44    0.68    0.570.78    -0.32    12557315.78
> ('57706 at uc004boa.1uc004bob.1@uc010mwh.1uc004bny.1uc004bnz.1.B.0',
> '57706 at uc004boa.1uc004bob.1@uc010mwh.1uc004bny.1uc004bnz.1.A.0')
> (0,0):552,(0,1):49,(1,0):587    0:587,1:49
> (0,0):275,(0,1):17,(1,0):770    0:770,1:17    chr9    NA    (126141933,
> 126163870)    (126144904, 126164191)
>
> single end:
> 57706 at uc004boa.1uc004bob.1@uc010mwh.1uc004bny.1uc004bnz.1    0.89
> 0.88    0.91    0.97    0.960.98    -0.08    1000000000000.00
> '57706 at uc004boa.1uc004bob.1
> @uc010mwh.1uc004bny.1uc004bnz.1.B.0','57706 at uc004boa.1uc004bob.1@uc010mwh.1uc004bny.1uc004bnz.1.A.0'
> (0,0):1119,(0,1):148,(1,0):1228
> 0:1228,1:148(0,0):523,(0,1):50,(1,0):1605    0:1605,1:50    chr9    NA
> 126141933,126163870    126144904,126164191
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
> I am using Miso version 0.4.9. Could you please help me figure out why
> this happens in single end mode?
>
> Thanks,
> Alborz
>
>
>
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