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<FONT FACE="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:12.0px'>Stephen,<BR>
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Thank you for you putting things in perspective. Show me the data. :)<BR>
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I would also like to add a comment. IS&T’s budget has been cut to the bone, yet overall services have <B>dramatically</B> improved since Jerry’s arrival. To Jerry and his team: keep up the great work; we appreciate everything you are doing. <BR>
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Al <BR>
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On 7/12/05 9:52 AM, "Stephen Dowdy" <sdowdy@MIT.EDU> wrote:<BR>
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</SPAN></FONT><BLOCKQUOTE><FONT COLOR="#000080"><FONT SIZE="4"><FONT FACE="Arial"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:13.0px'>I normally would not get involved in an e-mail thread like this… but given that our office is directly involved with the computation of the overhead rate, I thought I would just offer a few numbers to educate folks on where all that F&A goes. Overhead is now referred to as Facilities and Administration (F&A) and the following is the breakdown of the “F” piece and the “A” piece of F&A. <BR>
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Attached is a PDF file that illustrates the following:<BR>
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Based on FY03 data, for every dollar we spend on research:<BR>
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69 cents goes to the direct cost of research.<BR>
31 cents goes to the F&A costs associated with research.<BR>
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Of that 31 cents, the “F” piece of F&A is broken down as:<BR>
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8 cents goes to operation and maintenance<BR>
3 cents goes towards equipment<BR>
4 cents goes towards utilities<BR>
5 cents goes towards buildings<BR>
2 cents goes towards libraries<BR>
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That’s a total of 22 cents of the 31 cents that directly supports the research endeavor here at MIT. Surely your researches expect the buildings to have water, electricity, heat, air conditioning and expect the facilities to be maintained, the restrooms cleaned, the grass cut and the snow removed. I also believe the researchers desire well run and well maintained libraries.<BR>
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The remaining 9 cents of the overhead, goes towards the “A” piece of F&A:<BR>
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4 cents to general administration (Dean’s offices, Provost, President, etc)<BR>
1 cent to departmental administration (the budget to run the various DLCs on campus that enroll your students and process your payroll transactions)<BR>
2 cents to faculty (we pay the faculty salaries from institute funds even when they are working on federal research projects)<BR>
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And the last 2 cents for all other administration which includes IS&T, OSP, Payroll, Controller’s office, etc<BR>
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So your “</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT FACE="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:12.0px'>hard earned money that [you] spend on the so called "MIT overhead"</SPAN></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000080"><FONT SIZE="4"><FONT FACE="Arial"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:13.0px'>” really supports the research enterprise and isn’t some simple slush fund that MIT taxes you with. The federal government caps the “A” portion of “F&A” at 26% of the total equation that makes up our full F&A rate. MIT is one of very few schools in the entire country that is below the 26% administrative cap on overhead which means we are more efficient and much more lean in central administrative costs that almost every other school in the nation. As you can see from the numbers above, most of your overhead goes towards facilities (the “F” piece) and the majority of the “A” piece goes to the schools and departments to run them. <BR>
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Finally, that 2 cents that must support OSP, IS&T, Payroll, Human Resources, Controller’s office, etc… is proportioned according to the direct support of research that each office contributes. For example, about 92% of OSP supports research. Therefore my office is highly recoverable and most of our costs are in that 2 cents. IS&T hovers around 52-54% recoverable. Other offices have different recovery rates that all get added into the big pie that constitutes that final 2 cents of F&A that we charge. So for an office like IS&T, their remaining funds come form outside sources and in the form of tuition and other revenue. IS&T supports the teaching endeavor as mush as the research endeavor of the institute and therefore their recovery reflects that fact.<BR>
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Since we are below the regulatory administrative cap, you could argue to the Provost that you would like to pay more F&A to get more services from central administration. I’m sure Jerry Grochow would love to have his budget increased so that he could provide more services and you wouldn’t have to wait over 2 months to get full support of Tiger. Perhaps you should take your argument to Apple for releasing a OS upgrade that breaks so many applications. No one would hesitate to bash Microsoft if they released an new OS that causes so many problems. <BR>
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Anyway, that’s the F&A facts.<BR>
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<FONT SIZE="4"><FONT FACE="Tahoma"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:13.0px'><B>From:</B> Kuba Tatarkiewicz [<a href="mailto:tatarkie@lns.mit.edu]">mailto:tatarkie@lns.mit.edu]</a> <BR>
<B>Sent:</B> Monday, July 11, 2005 6:34 PM<BR>
<B>To:</B> Bill Cattey<BR>
<B>Cc:</B> Gerald D Burke; Albert Willis; macpartners@MIT.EDU; itpartners@MIT.EDU; sw-release-announce@MIT.EDU; ed-tech@MIT.EDU; it-lead@MIT.EDU; itag@MIT.EDU; is&t@MIT.EDU; Jerry Grochow; Sean Thompson; J Maynard Gelinas<BR>
<B>Subject:</B> Re: [Macpartners] Mac OS X 10.4 "Tiger" Update<BR>
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</SPAN></FONT><FONT SIZE="5"><FONT FACE="Times New Roman"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:16.0px'>I appreciate you concerns and your comments.<BR>
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</SPAN></FONT><FONT SIZE="5"><FONT FACE="Times New Roman"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:16.0px'>However, as the person responsible for computer user experience in the Lab, I can not relay on a good will. This is same with Mac OS X as it is with Linux. That's why we do have two full time Linux admins in the group who (I cross my fingers) keep our 200+ hosts secure and in a working condition. Well, they do much more: LNS is running on all desktops our own distribution of Scientific Linux (Red Hat distribution supported by CERN - unfortunately, we can not afford enterprise prices of Red Hat and MIT IST choose not to support Red Hat at levels that we need) with distributed computing CONDOR system. Our users are happy for the system, which translates into payments to our budget (read: our salaries).<BR>
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</SPAN></FONT><FONT SIZE="5"><FONT FACE="Times New Roman"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:16.0px'>I think that the last sentence of the previous paragraph tells all: I'd like to see real support for Mac OS X for our hard earned money that we spend on the so called "MIT overhead". Unfortunately, present situation does not justify our payments: it is 2+ months since Tiger was introduced to the general public, several commercial applications have been already updated, but there's nothing on MIT IST Web site that our users can be interested in.<BR>
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</SPAN></FONT><FONT SIZE="5"><FONT FACE="Times New Roman"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:16.0px'>Sorry, but as we say in Poland, the hell is covered with good wills. What we really need are good actions.<BR>
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I am sorry to hear that you gave up on IS&T support for Mac OS X.<BR>
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</SPAN></FONT><FONT SIZE="5"><FONT FACE="Times New Roman"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:16.0px'>You raise a question that deserves an answer: "Why does it seem like<BR>
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</SPAN></FONT><FONT SIZE="5"><FONT FACE="Times New Roman"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:16.0px'>IS&T is not testing until after a product ships?"<BR>
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</SPAN></FONT><FONT SIZE="5"><FONT FACE="Times New Roman"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:16.0px'>My personal experience is as Linux Platform Coordinator, but I believe<BR>
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</SPAN></FONT><FONT SIZE="5"><FONT FACE="Times New Roman"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:16.0px'>it is applicable to platforms like Mac OS X.<BR>
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</SPAN></FONT><FONT SIZE="5"><FONT FACE="Times New Roman"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:16.0px'>We *DO* test products before they come out -- as much early access as<BR>
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</SPAN></FONT><FONT SIZE="5"><FONT FACE="Times New Roman"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:16.0px'>vendors are willing to give us. Some vendors give us a lot of access.<BR>
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</SPAN></FONT><FONT SIZE="5"><FONT FACE="Times New Roman"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:16.0px'>Others don't give us much or any early access. We negotiate as best we<BR>
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</SPAN></FONT><FONT SIZE="5"><FONT FACE="Times New Roman"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:16.0px'>can.<BR>
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</SPAN></FONT><FONT SIZE="5"><FONT FACE="Times New Roman"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:16.0px'>The issue that keeps a LOT of us in IS&T stressed is that after we have<BR>
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</SPAN></FONT><FONT SIZE="5"><FONT FACE="Times New Roman"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:16.0px'>tested the early versions of a product, the real version of the product<BR>
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</SPAN></FONT><FONT SIZE="5"><FONT FACE="Times New Roman"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:16.0px'>sometimes ships badly broken in some way. The vendor thought it was a<BR>
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</SPAN></FONT><FONT SIZE="5"><FONT FACE="Times New Roman"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:16.0px'>trivial change, but it wasn't. We have found that we have to run ALL<BR>
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</SPAN></FONT><FONT SIZE="5"><FONT FACE="Times New Roman"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:16.0px'>the testing we did on the early version AGAIN on the REAL version, and<BR>
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</SPAN></FONT><FONT SIZE="5"><FONT FACE="Times New Roman"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:16.0px'>that we often find nasty problems.<BR>
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</SPAN></FONT><FONT SIZE="5"><FONT FACE="Times New Roman"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:16.0px'>It is an unfortunate situation that, when the vendors ship new versions<BR>
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</SPAN></FONT><FONT SIZE="5"><FONT FACE="Times New Roman"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:16.0px'>of their products, they somehow fail for a non-trivial segment of the<BR>
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</SPAN></FONT><FONT SIZE="5"><FONT FACE="Times New Roman"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:16.0px'>MIT user community. I appreciate how all you have seen is how long it<BR>
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</SPAN></FONT><FONT SIZE="5"><FONT FACE="Times New Roman"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:16.0px'>takes for us to qualify new software, and how in spite of that delay,<BR>
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</SPAN></FONT><FONT SIZE="5"><FONT FACE="Times New Roman"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:16.0px'>you still get bit by problems.<BR>
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</SPAN></FONT><FONT SIZE="5"><FONT FACE="Times New Roman"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:16.0px'>Although I am saddened by the prospect of IS&T losing the experience<BR>
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</SPAN></FONT><FONT SIZE="5"><FONT FACE="Times New Roman"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:16.0px'>from the users of your 50+ LNS systems, I can appreciate your viewpoint.<BR>
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</SPAN></FONT><FONT SIZE="5"><FONT FACE="Times New Roman"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:16.0px'>When you shrink the problem down from 1000 stakeholder to 50<BR>
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</SPAN></FONT><FONT SIZE="5"><FONT FACE="Times New Roman"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:16.0px'>Before you walk away from us, I ask you please to consider the<BR>
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</SPAN></FONT><FONT SIZE="5"><FONT FACE="Times New Roman"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:16.0px'>problems, just not always in areas that are visible to you and your<BR>
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</SPAN></FONT><FONT SIZE="5"><FONT FACE="Times New Roman"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:16.0px'>Ultimately, IS&T can't do the whole job alone. We need customers who<BR>
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</SPAN></FONT><FONT SIZE="5"><FONT FACE="Times New Roman"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:16.0px'>will try stuff out, and either confirm for us that all is well, or help<BR>
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</SPAN></FONT><FONT SIZE="5"><FONT FACE="Times New Roman"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:16.0px'>us get problems and solutions through to the vendors.<BR>
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</SPAN></FONT><FONT SIZE="5"><FONT FACE="Times New Roman"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:16.0px'>On Wed, 2005-06-22 at 22:32 -0400, Kuba Tatarkiewicz wrote:<BR>
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</SPAN></FONT><FONT SIZE="5"><FONT FACE="Times New Roman"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:16.0px'>will is&t have a versions of 10.3 available for those new macs <BR>
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</SPAN></FONT><FONT SIZE="5"><FONT FACE="Times New Roman"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:16.0px'>macs arriving and noticed they all will come with tiger.<BR>
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</SPAN></FONT><FONT SIZE="5"><FONT FACE="Times New Roman"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:16.0px'>i have one already installed and not having a problem with<BR>
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