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<h3 style='margin-bottom:6.0pt;line-height:15.6pt'><b><font size=4
face=Helvetica><span lang=EN style='font-size:13.0pt;font-family:Helvetica'>Fuad
Siniora Speaks With ABC News on <st1:place w:st="on">Middle East</st1:place> Crisis<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></h3>
<p><strong><b><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN
style='font-size:12.0pt'>July 31, 2006 —</span></font></b></strong><span
lang=EN> - The following is a transcript of ABC News correspondent David
Wright's interview with <st1:country-region w:st="on">Lebanon</st1:country-region>'s
Prime Minister Fuad Siniora, a day after <st1:country-region w:st="on">Israel</st1:country-region>'s
air raid on Qana in southern <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:country-region w:st="on">Lebanon</st1:country-region></st1:place>.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><strong><b><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN
style='font-size:12.0pt'>David Wright: </span></font></b></strong><st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on"><span lang=EN>Israel</span></st1:place></st1:country-region><span
lang=EN> at this point has expressed its deep regrets. Do you accept <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Israel</st1:place></st1:country-region>'s
apologies, and its explanation?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><strong><b><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Fuad Siniora:</span></font></b></strong><span lang=EN>
Well … No … first of all, the attack against Qana happens for the
second time. Just 10 years ago the Israelis committed a similar crime. There
was an outpost for the U.N. People were sheltered in that outpost, and they
were bombarded by the Israelis killing more than 100 civilians. This time some
civilians, most of them children, took shelter in a building that was bombed by
the Israelis. The bombing of that building didn't just come as a mistake. In
fact, they bombarded that city all that night and scores of raids were made
against that city.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><strong><b><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Wright:</span></font></b></strong><span lang=EN> I was
hearing 80 separate airstrikes overnight.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><strong><b><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Siniora:</span></font></b></strong><span lang=EN> Yes.
Then they attacked that building, a civilian building. And it killed that many
people without any mercy. Now, besides that, throughout the past 19 days, they
have been bombing several civilian buildings, and this is not the first of the
kind. It happens after so many other villages and towns in the south of <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Lebanon</st1:place></st1:country-region> have
been bombed and several smaller massacres were done by the Israelis. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN style='font-size:12.0pt'>By
bombarding Qana, and after what happened 10 years ago, an incident that was
condemned by the whole world in 1996, they are repeating it. No apology is
accepted.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><strong><b><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Wright:</span></font></b></strong><span lang=EN>
Israelis insist that Hezbollah is firing rockets from that town.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><strong><b><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Siniora:</span></font></b></strong><span lang=EN>
Well, what do you expect as an excuse?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><strong><b><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Wright:</span></font></b></strong><span lang=EN>
They've released video showing what they say are rockets being fired from Qana
… <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><strong><b><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Siniora:</span></font></b></strong><span lang=EN> I
think with present technology you can do anything.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><strong><b><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Wright:</span></font></b></strong><span lang=EN> So,
you feel that these accounts were made up?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><strong><b><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Siniora:</span></font></b></strong><span lang=EN> Yes,
you can do anything with present technology. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN style='font-size:12.0pt'>I
think this is a crime, a crime against human decency, against humanity. What
they have done is unacceptable. I want to address all the American people, the
American mothers who have seen these pictures, whether they really accept such
crimes being committed against <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Lebanon</st1:place></st1:country-region>,
against the small children. What they have done to be killed in such a matter.
I think that such an act should be condemned by everybody: by the American
people, by the American administration. I believe that something has to be done
quickly to stop this massacre, to stop this indecency that is being committed
by the Israelis. They have to immediately call for a cease-fire.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN style='font-size:12.0pt'>The
<st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">U.S.</st1:place></st1:country-region>
and everybody. We have to have an immediate cease-fire because this thing will
continue, and let me tell you ... what are the Israelis achieving?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><strong><b><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Wright:</span></font></b></strong><span lang=EN> Well,
lets get to that in a second. … But before, are you satisfied with the
efforts of the Bush administration thus far?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><strong><b><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Siniora:</span></font></b></strong><span lang=EN> The
American administration is doing [something about it] and I believe that some
more has to be done in terms of exercising real pressure on the
Israelis.… I believe that some more has to be done in terms of exercising
real pressure on the Israelis. I don't think that what has been done is enough
yet. Something more has to be done and the Israelis are giving all sorts of
excuses. "We cannot give concessions to Hezbollah!" They are not
giving concessions to Hezbollah. They are giving concessions to humanity. This
is what is required.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><!-- page --><strong><b><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Wright:</span></font></b></strong><span lang=EN> The
Israeli representative to the U.N. spoke in front of the Security Council last
night and said that Hezbollah is a monster of your responsibility, that the
blood is on your hands because you never sent your troops down to southern <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Lebanon</st1:place></st1:country-region> to deal
with it.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><strong><b><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Siniora:</span></font></b></strong><span lang=EN> Let
me tell you. Assuming that it is a monster, who created that monster? <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Israel</st1:place></st1:country-region> created
that monster. <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Israel</st1:place></st1:country-region>,
who has been behind all this movement by being intransigent and not accepting
to do what is necessary. How? By continuing the occupation. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN style='font-size:12.0pt'>Let
<st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Israel</st1:place></st1:country-region>
withdraw from the occupied territory. <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Israel</st1:place></st1:country-region> has been responsible
throughout for this feeling of humiliation in the Muslim world. This feeling
that there is no solution to the Arab-Israeli conflict. To what is really being
done in <st1:country-region w:st="on">Lebanon</st1:country-region>, <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Israel</st1:place></st1:country-region> is
responsible. <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Israel</st1:place></st1:country-region>
has been behind the creating of Hezbollah. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><st1:country-region w:st="on"><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
lang=EN style='font-size:12.0pt'>Israel</span></font></st1:country-region><span
lang=EN> came to <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Lebanon</st1:place></st1:country-region>
in 1982 to finish, as they say, [the] PLO. What they did -- they thought that
they had finished [the] PLO. They didn't, but what they did is put the seed for
the creation of what they call "another monster."<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><strong><b><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Wright:</span></font></b></strong><span lang=EN> Is
Hezbollah a monster?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><strong><b><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Siniora:</span></font></b></strong><span lang=EN> No,
I'm using their term. It's not.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><strong><b><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Wright:</span></font></b></strong><span lang=EN> How
do you see Hezbollah? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><strong><b><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Siniora:</span></font></b></strong><span lang=EN>
Well, Hezbollah in all sincerity, I can tell you that Hezbollah is a party that
really had a very effective role in achieving the withdrawal of Israel from
most of the parts of Lebanon that were occupied by Israel in 1978-1982. But
there are Israelis still occupying the <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Sheba</st1:place></st1:country-region> farms. Hezbollah has members
in the parliament and members in our Cabinet. They have their own principles,
they have their own ways of doing things, we share, we don't share certain
aspects and so on, but the point is that Hezbollah has a certain objective of
freeing the Lebanese territories.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN style='font-size:12.0pt'>They
had the incident of July 12. We, as the Lebanese government, made ourselves
very clear that we didn't know about it, that we take no responsibility and
that we disavow. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><strong><b><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Wright:</span></font></b></strong><span lang=EN> Are
you angry at Hezbollah for dragging <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Lebanon</st1:place></st1:country-region> into a war that you didn't
decide to enter?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><strong><b><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Siniora:</span></font></b></strong><span lang=EN> I
believe that this is something that we have all agreed that is not the time to
look into this. Now that the whole country is being subjected to an aggression.
And this thing has to finish, and the Lebanese government has decided to step
in to find a solution, for the reasons that led to the incident of July 12 and
what really came after that. I want to find a solution to the abducted soldiers
and the detainees.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN style='font-size:12.0pt'>You
know that <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Israel</st1:place></st1:country-region>
has been detaining several Lebanese in its prisons for the past 28 years.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><strong><b><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Wright:</span></font></b></strong><span lang=EN> Some
of them are accused of murder?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><strong><b><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Siniora:</span></font></b></strong><span lang=EN> Well
… <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><strong><b><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Wright:</span></font></b></strong><span lang=EN> They
are serving life sentences for murder<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><strong><b><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Siniora:</span></font></b></strong><span lang=EN>
Well, I don't want to get into this because ...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><strong><b><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Wright:</span></font></b></strong><span lang=EN> But
it is relevant, isn't it?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><strong><b><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Siniora:</span></font></b></strong><span lang=EN>
Well, yeah, I mean, look Samir Qantar was at one time considered a murderer. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><strong><b><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Wright:</span></font></b></strong><span lang=EN> So
you see these men as patriots?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><strong><b><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Siniora:</span></font></b></strong><span lang=EN>
Well, it depends how you look at it. What we say is we have many things in
which we differ, and many in which we find similarities. But this incident we
disavow. The Lebanese government is not responsible for that.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><!-- page --><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN
style='font-size:12.0pt'>What we say is we want to finish with this type of
action and reaction. They say they want to finish with this monster as they say
… How?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><strong><b><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Wright:</span></font></b></strong><span lang=EN> I
think that what the Bush administration and the Israeli administration want to
see, Hezbollah disarmed and moved back out of southern <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Lebanon</st1:place></st1:country-region>.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><strong><b><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Siniora:</span></font></b></strong><span lang=EN> And
we want to see the Lebanese government prevail all over <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Lebanon</st1:place></st1:country-region>, and
that there won't be any weapon in the country other than the weapon of the
legitimate authority.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><strong><b><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Wright:</span></font></b></strong><span lang=EN> So
you share the goal of wanting to disarm Hezbollah.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><strong><b><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Siniora:</span></font></b></strong><span lang=EN>
Ultimately, yes. This has been made very clear.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><strong><b><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Wright:</span></font></b></strong><span lang=EN> How
can this be done?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><strong><b><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Siniora:</span></font></b></strong><span lang=EN> I
think there is a very simple solution. <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Israel</st1:place></st1:country-region> has to withdraw. Why are
they still there? What are they doing? Are they more secure? Are they safer
now? No, they are not.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN style='font-size:12.0pt'>Consider
yourself in a situation where your country is still occupied by a foreign
country. What do you do? You may have different ways or means of doing it, but
at least you refuse it, isn't it?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><strong><b><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Wright:</span></font></b></strong><span lang=EN> The
French foreign minister is here today. There is a lot of talk of the French
being the leader of the peacekeeping talks. What is the latest on that?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><strong><b><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Siniora:</span></font></b></strong><span lang=EN>
Well, we met together and there are so many ideas we are talking about. <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">France</st1:place></st1:country-region> is
interested in helping. We are trying to see what are the ideas we are coming up
with and how to coordinate with the ideas presented by Secretary Rice.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><strong><b><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Wright:</span></font></b></strong><span lang=EN> <st1:country-region
w:st="on">France</st1:country-region> says it will only come in if there is a
cease-fire, and <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Israel</st1:place></st1:country-region>
will only call a cease-fire if there is an international force deployed …
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><strong><b><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Siniora:</span></font></b></strong><span lang=EN>
That's a catch-22. It's impossible for an international force to come in if
there is no cease-fire and a clear framework for a settlement.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><strong><b><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Wright:</span></font></b></strong><span lang=EN> Have
you been given a private assurance by the Bush administration that we are now
closer to a solution?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><strong><b><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Siniora:</span></font></b></strong><span lang=EN>
That's what Secretary Rice has been saying in her press conference this
morning. That there is some progress.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><strong><b><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Wright:</span></font></b></strong><span lang=EN> But
she is still not using the phrase "immediate cease-fire."<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><strong><b><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Siniora:</span></font></b></strong><span lang=EN> They
are not using the phrase "immediate cease-fire," and they are not
talking about the withdrawal from <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Sheba</st1:place></st1:country-region> farms. The withdrawal from <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Sheba</st1:place></st1:country-region> farms is
an essential thing … <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><strong><b><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Wright:</span></font></b></strong><span lang=EN> These
are groups of farms that were occupied by <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Israel</st1:place></st1:country-region> in 1949?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><strong><b><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Siniora:</span></font></b></strong><span lang=EN> No,
they were occupied by <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Israel</st1:place></st1:country-region>
in 1967 until 1989. Over 22 years they have been chewing piece after piece.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><strong><b><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Wright:</span></font></b></strong><span lang=EN> Sir, as
we finish the third week of this terrible situation, are you any more confident
that it will soon come to a close?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><strong><b><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Siniora:</span></font></b></strong><span lang=EN>
Despite all the agony and the anger and the destruction, I did not lose my
hope. I'm still a believer of my country, of God, in peace and peace-loving
nations, that they are really going to do their best to put pressure on <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Israel</st1:place></st1:country-region> to
withdraw. And I will tell all the Israelis in the world that what is being done
by their government is not the right thing that will lead them to more security.
It will lead to more death, to more hatred. It will not achieve any objective,
because using force has shown over the years not to give any result.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><!-- page --><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN
style='font-size:12.0pt'>I believe that there is a golden opportunity, despite
all the darkness that we are living in now, this is the time when historic men
can really convert a problem situation, a catastrophe, into an opportunity.
They can be brave enough to say "yes, the problem is the occupation, we
have to withdraw from <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Sheba</st1:place></st1:country-region>,
we are not giving concessions to Hezbollah." They are giving concessions
for peace, security, safety of their northern border.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN style='font-size:12.0pt'>We
said that this was our objective and we put it in our seven-point plan that has
been agreed upon by the Lebanese government. This is a time for the Israelis to
say that this is an opportunity, lets grab it. <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Lebanon</st1:place></st1:country-region> is saying "I am
willing to comply with the armistice of 1949, with all the necessary amendments
to that." After that, this is another jump they can really make, to seize
the opportunity available now, to go to peace.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN style='font-size:12.0pt'>This
is something that requires brave, historic men in order to make peace for the
Israelis. We have learned a very important lesson: No matter how many weapons
you can pile up, no matter how sophisticated, that cannot bring security. What
brings security is good relations with your neighbors.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN style='font-size:12.0pt'>Let's
not go around the bush. Directly go to the root of the problem, and you'll find
the solution.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><strong><b><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Wright:</span></font></b></strong><span lang=EN> The
framework of the peace that is being worked out right now, will Hezbollah
accept it?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><strong><b><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Siniora:</span></font></b></strong><span lang=EN> We
have already presented our seven points. And they are quite clear, very clear.
This has been agreed by the government, including Hezbollah members.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><strong><b><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Wright:</span></font></b></strong><span lang=EN> Well,
I hope, sir, that this terrible conflict is over soon, and I wish you good luck
in trying to work for a peaceful settlement.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><strong><b><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Siniora:</span></font></b></strong><span lang=EN>
Thank you.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><strong><b><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Wright:</span></font></b></strong><span lang=EN> Thank
you very much for taking the time to talk to us.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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