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<body>screw you, you ignorant-intolerant-iranian-ass-kissing-syrian-butt-hole-licking low life<BR>
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If you can't handle debate and alterative view points, go buy yourself a one-way ticket to Tehran!<BR ><BR ><BR ><BR>
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> From: shraybi@hotmail.com<BR>> To: kingkassis@hotmail.com; leb-students@lists.stanford.edu; lebanon-articles@mit.edu<BR>> Subject: Re: [LCM Articles] What is wrong with you people?? One more thing...<BR>> Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 03:42:14 +0000<BR>> <BR>> Jimmy Kassis,<BR>> <BR>> Would you please SHUT UP ......... i can't stand this Israeili any more<BR>> <BR>> Sorry for the rest of you....<BR>> <BR>> S H<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> ----Original Message Follows----<BR>> From: "Jimmy Kassis" <kingkassis@hotmail.com><BR>> To: <leb-students@lists.stanford.edu>, <lebanon-articles@mit.edu><BR>> Subject: Re: [LCM Articles] What is wrong with you people?? One <BR>> more thing...<BR>> Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 23:28:50 -0400<BR>> <BR>> I respect the wishes of the moderator and I will not further comment on this <BR>> thread. But as the originator of this thread I will make these last 3 <BR>> points.<BR>> Unity:<BR>> Many people commented on unity as the reason for standing behind Hezbollah <BR>> and focusing on Israel and what they have done in reaction to the Hezbollah <BR>> provocation.<BR>> I will argue that this approach will divide us rather than unite us. We <BR>> must start doing with is RIGHT not what is politically correct. What is <BR>> right is to feel outraged and betrayed by what Hezbollah have instigated. <BR>> Even Arab nations are not denying these facts.<BR>> <BR>> Call for Demonstration:If all we say STOP THE ISRAELI WAR ON LEBANON as the <BR>> slogan committee suggested, and we do not parallel this message with calls <BR>> for a solution to Hezbollah, namely their disarmament, than we are doing a <BR>> our country a huge disservice. How credible and how effective will we be in <BR>> the eyes of the world if we turn a blind eye to the elephant in the room??<BR>> <BR>> Negotiations:<BR>> I am appalled by the suggestion that we should avoid war even if it means 20 <BR>> years of negotiation with Hezbollah. Do we want to spend the next 20 years <BR>> fearful of a militia group that is accountable to no one and that has track <BR>> record of acting irresponsibly? What will we do next time Nassrallah <BR>> decides to show his solidarity with our palestinian brothers and go kidnap <BR>> and kill a few jews? Will we vote him out of office? What will we the <BR>> next time Iran is cornered over some its nuclear issue and stirs up trouble <BR>> through Hezbollah? There is NO future in Lebanon, or any country, that has a <BR>> state within a state. This a time for us to make a stand against <BR>> Hezballah, let's not f*** it up like we did with the presidency.<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> > Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 12:36:17 -0400> From: ssolomon@mit.edu> To: <BR>> wassimh@hotmail.com> CC: leb-students@lists.stanford.edu; <BR>> lebanon-articles@mit.edu; alwaysbekind@msn.com> Subject: Re: [LCM Articles] <BR>> What is wrong with you people?? One more thing...> > I am actually not using <BR>> exact statisctics.> > Still, you have to say that (sorry for the ta2ifiyye <BR>> here) the huge > majority of> shiite people (35% of the Eligible voters in <BR>> the last elections were shiite> -annhar archive-) and a significant part of <BR>> the Sunnis (37% of the eligible> voters in the last elections were Sunnis) <BR>> and some of the rest of the> population (less Maronites than Roman or other <BR>> Christian sects) do belive that> Hizballah is our only defense against an <BR>> enemy that we can never trust.> > This is why I said that 30-->50 % of the <BR>> people would prefer that > hizballah keep> its weapons. (note that shiites <BR>> have an age pyramid that is wider than > all other> sects at the bottom. So, <BR>> in terms of population (not voters) they are probably> more than any other <BR>> sect in Lebanon).> > > Quoting Wassim Heneine <wassimh@hotmail.com>:> > > I <BR>> agree on most what you said except your statistics in the 2 paragraphs. I> > <BR>> might be wrong. Please provide supporting document.> >> > -----Original <BR>> Message-----> > From: lebanon-articles-bounces@mit.edu> > <BR>> [mailto:lebanon-articles-bounces@mit.edu] On Behalf Of Sleiman M Itani> > <BR>> Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 5:56 PM> > To: rmekary@aol.com> > Cc: <BR>> lebanon-articles@mit.edu; leb-students@lists.stanford.edu;> > <BR>> alwaysbekind@msn.com> > Subject: Re: [LCM Articles] What is wrong with you <BR>> people?? One more> > thing...> >> > Even if everybody on this list agrees <BR>> that Hizballah is bad, more than 30%> > (I> > would say even 50%) of the <BR>> Lebanese people want Hizballah to keep its> > weapons> > just to be a thorn <BR>> in Israel's side. There is a good number of Lebanese> > people> > who see <BR>> Israel as an enemy no matter what.> >> > Just remember that Hizballah has <BR>> the biggest support in Lebanon (as one> > party,> > not a coalition), and <BR>> even if we don't agree with those people, we have to> > respect their <BR>> rights. We can't just claim that they don't exist and keep> > them> > <BR>> unrepresented.> >> > now for what I think ( I think one of the articles <BR>> posted here said the same> > thing): hizballah's move this time might have <BR>> been taken as the reason for> > the> > Israeli attacks. I think that some <BR>> time ago Israel had the green light (or> > an> > invitation) from America, <BR>> the Arabs and some people in Lebanon. Note that> > hizballah's weapons <BR>> haven't been a problem for Israel for some time now,> > they> > are just a <BR>> problem for some people in Lebanon.> >> > I think that it is not only <BR>> Hizballah's (Syria and Iran) fault, it is also> > the> > fault of the <BR>> Americans, the Arabs (Saudi arabia, Egypt, Jordan), and> > the people> > in <BR>> the Lebanese government who knew that many Lebanese people will die> > but <BR>> still> > wanted revenge against Hizballah.> >> > Plus, without killing a <BR>> million Lebanese people, Hizballah can't be removed.> > This is true weather <BR>> Israel or the Lebanese army are trying to do it. If you> > don't know that, <BR>> then you don't know much about Lebanon. The only way> > to remove> > <BR>> hizballah is to erode its popularity first (maybe create a shiite party> > <BR>> that is> > anti syrian but still anti Israeli,) and I think that this is the <BR>> objective> > of> > the Israeli offensive.> >> > Anyways, these are just my <BR>> thoughts.> >> > The point is that we want to eat grapes and not to kill the <BR>> keeper. We need> > to> > have a united front and do this from a humanitarian <BR>> aspect because there is> > no> > united view on the political aspect. United <BR>> we stand, departed we fall.> >> > Also, we have to believe in peace, <BR>> democracy, and in the intellect of the> > Lebanese people. Even if it takes <BR>> 20 years of negotiations to disarm> > Hizballah,> > that is the right way to <BR>> do it. We have to learn to show the world unity and> > solve our problems <BR>> between us, democratically. This is one of the main> > reasons> > for the <BR>> success of the Israeli governments. Israel has a lot of internal> > problems <BR>> (including armed groups that the government can't practically> > control), <BR>> but they don't solve them by destroying themselves.> >> > I just hope that <BR>> this doesn't last too long. We don't need another 16 years> > of> > war.> >> <BR>> > Salamat> >> >> > Quoting rmekary@aol.com:> >> >> Great. Thanks Walid.> <BR>> >> This being said, how can we take actions and spread the word and ask> >> <BR>> both of Hizballah and Israel to stop?> >> We shoud mainly ask Hizbalah to go <BR>> fight Israel in Iran and Syria and> >> to leave Lebanon alone.> >> If we all <BR>> agree on that, we should state this clearly all over the world.> >> We <BR>> should literally ask Hizballh to stop fighting Israel on our> >> Lebanese <BR>> land for an Iranian/ Syrian/ Palestinian cause.> >>> >> Do you all agree?> <BR>> >> If yes, let's do something about it ASAP.> >>> >> Sincerely,> >> Rania.> <BR>> >>> >> -----Original Message-----> >> From: r_walid@hotmail.com> >> To: <BR>> rmekary@aol.com; abitdodgy@hotmail.com; kingkassis@hotmail.com;> >> <BR>> leb-students@lists.stanford.edu; lebanon-articles@mit.edu> >> Sent: Wed, 19 <BR>> Jul 2006 10:54 AM> >> Subject: Re: [LCM Articles] What is wrong with you <BR>> people?? One more> > thing...> >>> >> Finally we are waking up and <BR>> realizing the truth. We are realizing> >> that Hizbullah's ultimate goal was <BR>> completed long ago, we should now> >> thank them and it is now time for them <BR>> to let lebanon take all> >> military and other decisions for itself. I am <BR>> sorry for all the pain> >> the Palestinians are suffering, but i don't see <BR>> why we also need to> >> pay the price by having a militia that tickles the <BR>> wasp's nest every> >> once in a while. We, the civilians, always end up <BR>> being stung the> >> most by these actions.> >>> >> From: rmekary@aol.com> <BR>> >> To: abitdodgy@hotmail.com, kingkassis@hotmail.com,> >> <BR>> leb-students@lists.stanford.edu, lebanon-articles@mit.edu> >> Subject: Re: <BR>> [LCM Articles] What is wrong with you people?? One more> > thing...> >> <BR>> Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 10:32:58 -0400> >> MIME-Version: 1.0> >> Received: <BR>> from pch.mit.edu ([18.7.21.90]) by> >> bay0-mc3-f13.bay0.hotmail.com with <BR>> Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.2444);> >> Wed, 19 Jul 2006 07:38:11 -0700> >> <BR>> Received: from pch.mit.edu (pch.mit.edu [127.0.0.1])by pch.mit.edu> >> <BR>> (8.13.6/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k6JEbgdY024223;Wed, 19 Jul 2006> >> 10:37:43 <BR>> -0400> >> Received: from pacific-carrier-annex.mit.edu> >> <BR>> (PACIFIC-CARRIER-ANNEX.MIT.EDU[18.7.21.83])by pch.mit.edu> >> <BR>> (8.13.6/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k6JEbfr4024220for> >> <BR>> <lebanon-articles@PCH.mit.edu>; Wed, 19 Jul 2006 10:37:41 -0400> >> <BR>> Received: from imo-m21.mx.aol.com (imo-m21.mx.aol.com> >> [64.12.137.2])by <BR>> pacific-carrier-annex.mit.edu (8.13.6/8.9.2) with> >> ESMTP <BR>> idk6JEb4EU017371for <lebanon-articles@mit.edu>; Wed, 19 Jul> >> 2006 <BR>> 10:37:04 -0400 (EDT)> >> Received: from Rmekary@aol.comby <BR>> imo-m21.mx.aol.com> >> (mail_out_v38_r7.5.) id i.37f.84e0bec (45777);Wed, 19 <BR>> Jul 2006> >> 10:32:59 -0400 (EDT)> >> Received: from FWM-D33 <BR>> (fwm-d33.webmail.aol.com [205.188.162.9])> >> byciaaol-r02.mx.aol.com <BR>> (v110.15) with ESMTP> >> idMAILCIAAOLR025-b2d144be429a1d6; Wed, 19 Jul 2006 <BR>> 10:32:58 -0400> >> Received: from 134.174.184.124 by FWM-D33.sysops.aol.com> <BR>> >> (205.188.162.9) withHTTP (WebMailUI); Wed, 19 Jul 2006 10:32:58 -0400> <BR>> >>> >> Dear all,> >>> >> I read all the comments.> >> At least we all <BR>> agree we want Israel to stop its unhumanitarian attacks.> >> I am afraid it <BR>> is too late now after all the destruction.> >> But let's learn one lesson <BR>> though: we should also ask for hizballah to> > stop> >> fighting Israel... <BR>> The more they fight Israel, the more Lebanon is> > destroyed.> >> So why <BR>> don't we all ask for BOTH parties to stop????> >> Why don't we ask Israel to <BR>> go fight Iran and Syrian on THEIR land and> >> not ours?> >> Hizballah can <BR>> get out and fight on an Iranian land... do we really> >> want Hizballah?> >> <BR>> They are bringing nothing but destruction and war from Israel to Lebanon.> <BR>> >>> >> We, Lebanese, Christinas and Muslims, shoud all ask for Hizballah <BR>> to> >> stop their action as well....> >> <BR>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~> >> Rania Mekary, Ph.D.> >> Harvard <BR>> School of Public Health> >> Nutrition Department> >> 655 Huntington Avenue, <BR>> Building 2> >> Boston, Ma 02115> >> Voice mail: 617-432-6343> >> Fax: <BR>> 617-432-2435> >> http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/researchers/rmekary.html> >> <BR>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~> >> -----Original Message-----> >> From: <BR>> abitdodgy@hotmail.com> >> To: kingkassis@hotmail.com; <BR>> leb-students@lists.stanford.edu;> >> lebanon-articles@mit.edu> >> Sent: Wed, <BR>> 19 Jul 2006 1:01 AM> >> Subject: Re: [LCM Articles] What is wrong with you <BR>> people?? One more> > thing...> >>> >> Before this list gets moderated, <BR>> allow me to say the following:> >> Jimmy, what a bloody pratt you are! You <BR>> want me to call an apple an> >> apple? Well, I just did. You want to <BR>> "applaud" Israel for killing> >> countless Lebanese civilians, destroying <BR>> the economy and> >> infrastructure of our country under the pretence of self <BR>> defense,> >> then knock your self out, but know this: No one is condoning <BR>> the> >> actions of Hezbollah; we?re condemning the heavy handed actions of> <BR>> >> Israel and its collective punishment of Lebanon and its people, which> <BR>> >> constitutes of a violation of the Geneva Convention and International> <BR>> >> Law. Come on, let me hear you clap. The government of Israel said it> >> <BR>> was Syria and Iran pulling the strings, then let them go bomb Syria> >> and <BR>> Iran. I apologize to all recipients of this list for being out> >> of <BR>> character, but my 85 year old mother had to evacuate right after> >> she had <BR>> an operation, and our dear Jimmy thinks we should applaud> >> that. My <BR>> apologies for using derogatory language, but I wish there> >> was a polite <BR>> way to call an idiot an idiot. Not only are you> >> senseless, dear Jimmy, <BR>> but you lack perspective and the analytical> >> capacity to understand that <BR>> the biggest loser in this conflict is> >> Lebanon and not Hezbollah. The <BR>> idiocy of morally decrepit people who> >> see nothing wrong with the <BR>> destruction of Lebanon and the death of> >> its civilians as long as they <BR>> are under the illusion that Hezbollah> >> are being destroyed is mind <BR>> boggling. Open your eyes and witness who> >> the real losers are. Good <BR>> night! We're not expressing support> >> for Hezbollah, we are expressing <BR>> solidarity and support for the> >> Lebanese living through a genocide you <BR>> have no shame in appluadng.> >> From: "Jimmy Kassis" <BR>> <kingkassis@hotmail.com>> >> To: <leb-students@lists.stanford.edu>, <BR>> <lebanon-articles@mit.edu>> >> Subject: Re: [LCM Articles] What is wrong <BR>> with you people?? One more> > thing...> >> Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 23:35:20 <BR>> -0400> >>> >> Instead of replying with emotionally charged responses, full <BR>> of> >> personal attacks, I would appreciate if you actually come up with> >> <BR>> alternative ideas of disarming Hisballah, i.e. curing the deadly> >> cancer, <BR>> rather than giving it a Tylenol by saying STOP THE WAR!! I> >> want to know <BR>> what is next?? spend the next 20 years negotiating with> >> them while they <BR>> build up their capabilities again?> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> From: <BR>> kingkassis@hotmail.com> >> To: philippesaad@gmail.com> >> Date: Tue, 18 Jul <BR>> 2006 23:22:38 -0400> >> CC: leb-students@lists.stanford.edu; <BR>> lebanon-articles@mit.edu> >> Subject: Re: [LCM Articles] What is wrong with <BR>> you people??> >>> >> Rania, I don?t think I am stating the obvious. After <BR>> reading all> >> the comments sent out, the ?obvious? is that no one seems to <BR>> have the> >> balls to speak out against Hezbollah for fear of being labeled> <BR>> >> unpatriotic. For a condemnation of Hezbollah is perceived as support> >> <BR>> for Israel which in itself is unpatriotic Farrah I don?t condone> >> <BR>> Israel destroying all of Lebanon. 95% of the bombing has been> >> targeted <BR>> to Hezbollah strongholds. Hezbollah chooses to operate from> >> within <BR>> civilian areas. That in itself is outrageous; the people> >> supporting <BR>> Hezbollah should not allow them to launch attacks form> >> hospital <BR>> rooftops. We should all rise up and speak out against that.> >> Again I <BR>> don?t condone the destruction of my own country, but I> >> understand the <BR>> other 5% of the bombing that Israel is doing to send a> >> message to the <BR>> Lebanese government. Elias Israel may not defeat> >> them completely but <BR>> they will sure weaken them to the point where> >> just maybe the Lebanese <BR>> army can dare to venture to the south and do> >> what is supposed to do and <BR>> patrol the border. Israeli exacting> >> revenge on the Lebanese?? Why? For <BR>> what? You and I both know that> >> Israel only want security on its <BR>> northern border. They have proven> >> that when they COMPLETELY withdrew in <BR>> 2000. Maurice I won?t> >> disappear. Deal with it. I don?t agree with <BR>> taking the country back> >> 20 years. But I want a solution a permanent one. <BR>> I am sick and tired> >> of holding Hezbollah?s hand begging them to disarm. <BR>> At the rate we> >> are moving with Hezbollah and Syria they would have taken <BR>> us back 20> >> years anyways. Philippe Before you go questioning my <BR>> Lebanese> >> identity, my patriotism, and calling me a coward let me tell <BR>> you> >> something about myself. My house was burned to the ground by the> >> <BR>> Druze in 1981; my house was then leveled to the ground by the Israeli> >> <BR>> invasion in 1982 in the mountains. My house again destroyed in Beirut> >> <BR>> and my mother badly injured from Syrian shelling in 1989. And some> >> more <BR>> destruction was piled on my house and family from the Lebanese> >> Forces <BR>> with their war with GMA. Despite all that, I love Lebanon, I> >> love the <BR>> people, and I believe in a united Lebanon with Christians> >> and Muslims <BR>> living together as one people. I truly believe in that> >> vision. I don?t <BR>> believe us as Lebanese have united enough to disarm> >> Hezbollah. Hezbollah <BR>> being the undisputed puppets of Syria and Iran,> >> I hold them responsible <BR>> for the death of some of the finest people> >> that Lebanon ever produced <BR>> from Hariri and Tueini to the rest you> >> know the list I won?t repeat <BR>> here. After what round of talks were you> >> expecting Hezbollah to disarm? <BR>> Hezbollah wanted every Arab and> >> Iranian issue resolved before they did <BR>> anything. Is that what you> >> want? I am tired as stated of listening to <BR>> their lame ass excuses of> >> why they need to be armed. Yes the death of <BR>> 250 civilians is> >> horrible, but if the end result is a country free of <BR>> militias in> >> peace with ALL its neighbors working to build a bright <BR>> future for its> >> children, then their death is well worth it.> >>> >> <BR>> >_______________________________________________> >> >Lebanon-Articles <BR>> mailing list> >> >Lebanon-Articles@mit.edu> >> <BR>> >http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/lebanon-articles> >> <BR>> _______________________________________________> >>> >>> >> Lebanon-Articles <BR>> mailing list> >>> >>> >> Lebanon-Articles@mit.edu> >> <BR>> http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/lebanon-articles> >> Check out <BR>> AOL.com today. Breaking news, video search, pictures,> >> email and IM. All <BR>> on demand. 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