<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Greetings all,<div><br></div><div>Here are the minutes (paraphrased a bit) for our meeting from last night. A summary of developments/action items is at the top. Thank you to all who attended, and we'll see you at the next meeting. We look forward to hearing about new developments from everyone's assignments then!</div><div><br></div><div>Those needing access to files to do their tasks will be hearing from Randi and I soon. Feel free to shoot thoughts/questions to the sub-committee chairs or HCA chairs. And if you'd like to get involved but couldn't get to the meeting, do come to the next meeting or email the chairs!</div><div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div>Nathaniel</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div><b>Family Sub-Committee Co-Chairs for this academic year: Anna Haggman and Ramya Nagaraja</b></div><div><b>Next meeting: Monday 10/29, 6PM, Location TBD</b></div><div><b>Tasks:</b></div><div><b>1) Looking at Cost of Living numbers in terms of families ==> Kim</b></div><div><b>2) Family Survey data examination ==> Jason</b></div><div><b>3) Survey of Off-Campus Daycare options == > Anna</b></div><div><b>4) Off-campus preschool options ==> Ramya</b></div><div><b>5) Peer Institution Childcare options ==> Remi</b></div><div><b>6) First draft of a position/recommendation letter to EBOC ==> Marzyeh and Monali</b></div></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Attending: 11</div><div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Arial; color: rgb(35, 35, 35); ">Nathaniel, Jason, Becky, Kim, Ramya, Monali, Tiky + Wenjun (Westgate), Marzyeh (Eastgate), Anna (Eastgate), Remi (Eastgate)</div></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Arial; color: rgb(35, 35, 35); "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Arial; color: rgb(35, 35, 35); "><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Arial; color: rgb(35, 35, 35); ">N: Who has a partner? 9</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Arial; color: rgb(35, 35, 35); ">N: Who has a child/expecting? 7 </div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Arial; color: rgb(35, 35, 35); "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Arial; color: rgb(35, 35, 35); ">N: On Structure,</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Arial; color: rgb(35, 35, 35); ">Subcommittee will meet fairly frequently (likely weekly). We need a person to lead the committee, and would work with Randi and I. </div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Arial; color: rgb(35, 35, 35); ">Will be the head of the committee.</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Arial; color: rgb(35, 35, 35); ">Anna: I would be interested in the position. But I don't know if I have the time, I have 2 kids. </div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Arial; color: rgb(35, 35, 35); ">N: I think we can work with this.</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Arial; color: rgb(35, 35, 35); ">Tiky: We will be talking about this position in the Westgate Town Hall meeting. </div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Arial; color: rgb(35, 35, 35); ">N: We would like to have this filled as soon as possible, since childcare's timeline this semester is very tight.</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Arial; color: rgb(35, 35, 35); ">Ra: I'd be interested too, I'm in a similar position to Anna with kids and time. </div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Arial; color: rgb(35, 35, 35); "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Arial; color: rgb(35, 35, 35); "><Consensus on Anna and Ramya being co-chairs of family sub-comm.></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Arial; color: rgb(35, 35, 35); min-height: 15px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Arial; color: rgb(35, 35, 35); min-height: 15px; ">N: Logistics-wise, how does this time and location work for attendees?</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Arial; color: rgb(35, 35, 35); ">Anna: How about using subcommittee money to pay for sitter? We can hire 1 or 2 for 2 hrs. </div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Arial; color: rgb(35, 35, 35); ">Anna: How about 6-7pm on Mondays?</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Arial; color: rgb(35, 35, 35); "><Consensus that this is better.></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Arial; color: rgb(35, 35, 35); min-height: 15px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Arial; color: rgb(35, 35, 35); ">N: We were thinking about alternating meeting between Westgate and Eastgate. </div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Arial; color: rgb(35, 35, 35); "><Consensus that this would be a good accommodating solution></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Arial; color: rgb(35, 35, 35); min-height: 15px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Arial; color: rgb(35, 35, 35); ">Agenda Item: Childcare. </div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Arial; color: rgb(35, 35, 35); ">Background: Work Life offered childcare scholarships a few years ago. It got cut back due to cost. Right now, grad students are not using TCC as much as they should (according to family survey). Spots are very competitive and it costs way too much. </div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Arial; color: rgb(35, 35, 35); ">Family survey: We should focus on stipends, housing and childcare. </div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Arial; color: rgb(35, 35, 35); ">What does your spouse do? Other category: undergrad, disability, </div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Arial; color: rgb(35, 35, 35); ">How do you handle child care? Other category: nanny, share the cost of the nanny. </div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Arial; color: rgb(35, 35, 35); ">Child care cost? $0 stay at home, $>2,000 more than 1 child. </div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Arial; color: rgb(35, 35, 35); ">In general, wording/directions needed more clarity to delineate between family, respondent, and partner income/occupations.</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Arial; color: rgb(35, 35, 35); min-height: 15px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Arial; color: rgb(35, 35, 35); min-height: 15px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Arial; color: rgb(35, 35, 35); ">N: Randi and I have spoken to EBOC, they want to hear a recommendation from GSC about what should happen with TCC Vassar. We are happy about it, but we will likely have a very specific vision for this to make it useful to grad students. We want to have a recommendation letter stating this by mid november. </div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Arial; color: rgb(35, 35, 35); ">N: we thought that the best way to go about this was to break it down in terms of tasks that we need to do in order to get this letter into persuasive form. </div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Arial; color: rgb(35, 35, 35); min-height: 15px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Arial; color: rgb(35, 35, 35); min-height: 15px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Arial; color: rgb(35, 35, 35); ">N: running down the list of data, and taking volunteers to examine/gather information:</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Arial; color: rgb(35, 35, 35); ">1. Look at CoL Numbers. - Kim </div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Arial; color: rgb(35, 35, 35); ">2. Family Survey - Jason </div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Arial; color: rgb(35, 35, 35); ">3. Off-campus daycare options - Anna </div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Arial; color: rgb(35, 35, 35); ">4. peer institution - Remi</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Arial; color: rgb(35, 35, 35); ">5. Marcia+Mulari, will like to work on crafting messages for report. (3.d.v)</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Arial; color: rgb(35, 35, 35); ">6. Off-campus pre-school - Romia</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Arial; color: rgb(35, 35, 35); min-height: 15px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Arial; color: rgb(35, 35, 35); min-height: 15px; ">In discussing daycare options off-campus:</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Arial; color: rgb(35, 35, 35); ">Jason: Work life has monthly options. MIT is a couple hundred dollars cheaper because they don't pay rent, but not a whole lot different.</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Arial; color: rgb(35, 35, 35); ">Marzyeh: Family run daycare center. small daycare center, $8-11/hour. usually someone, certified by a national organization, and authorized to take care of X children. </div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Arial; color: rgb(35, 35, 35); ">Kim: my kid is on a pre-school that runs cost based on income. I can find out a bit about this. </div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Arial; color: rgb(35, 35, 35); min-height: 15px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Arial; color: rgb(35, 35, 35); ">N: next item is peer institution info. We would like MIT to be the leader in this field, not just conform to the landscape, but first we have to know what the landscape looks like. </div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Arial; color: rgb(35, 35, 35); ">Remi volunteered. </div><p style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; font: 13.0px Arial; color: #232323; min-height: 15.0px"> </p><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Arial; color: rgb(35, 35, 35); ">N: let's move to timeline and brainstorming. </div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Arial; color: rgb(35, 35, 35); ">N: Have this document by Nov 30 at the latest. I think we can get this done by Thanksgiving. </div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Arial; color: rgb(35, 35, 35); ">Everyone in consensus. </div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Arial; color: rgb(35, 35, 35); min-height: 15px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Arial; color: rgb(35, 35, 35); ">Brainstorming Arguments/Thoughts for the Draft:</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Arial; color: rgb(35, 35, 35); ">N: Cost, right now it is the cost of your entire stipend. Fraction of stipend. </div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Arial; color: rgb(35, 35, 35); ">All: the time-window to respond to a slot offered is very short (~48 hours).</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Arial; color: rgb(35, 35, 35); ">Anna: the older the child, the shorter the waitlist. </div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Arial; color: rgb(35, 35, 35); ">Marzyeh: If you want to promote women at MIT, then we should focus on helping women…. the single biggest concern is affordable and reliable childcare, this is how we promote health and wellness.</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Arial; color: rgb(35, 35, 35); ">All: idea of portable benefits is reasonable. </div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Arial; color: rgb(35, 35, 35); ">Ramya: there is no option for pre-school plus care, and many kids are at the point where daycare alone isn't what is needed.</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Arial; color: rgb(35, 35, 35); min-height: 15px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Arial; color: rgb(35, 35, 35); ">N: (devil's advocate) why subsidize only a small subset of population?</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Arial; color: rgb(35, 35, 35); ">Jason: this argument is valid for any minority of the population. For example, handicap, and ramps are still available for all, and when buildings are built. </div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Arial; color: rgb(35, 35, 35); ">Aalap: This is a really good argument, why do we spent so much money in the minority office, or rainbow lounge. </div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Arial; color: rgb(35, 35, 35); ">Marzyeh: I think that having families definitely helps mental wellbeing….</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Arial; color: rgb(35, 35, 35); ">N: what if they say, this is too big of a problem to tackle. We can only do so much? </div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Arial; color: rgb(35, 35, 35); ">Kim: this is a particular problem to Cambridge, MIT should try to look at what it can do, with where it is. </div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Arial; color: rgb(35, 35, 35); ">N: this is part of competitive, we should take this into account. </div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Arial; color: rgb(35, 35, 35); min-height: 15px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Arial; color: rgb(35, 35, 35); ">N: what do you guys think about breaking down the labels of grad/ postdoc? </div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Arial; color: rgb(35, 35, 35); ">Marzyeh: I like that</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Arial; color: rgb(35, 35, 35); ">Jason: the difference in price between the income of postdocs and grad students is pretty small when compared to childcare costs. </div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Arial; color: rgb(35, 35, 35); ">Kim: is there a way of using extra money we bring with stipends, to pay for childcare?</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Arial; color: rgb(35, 35, 35); ">R: From what I know, the institute doesn't want to do piecewise/individual stipends. </div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Arial; color: rgb(35, 35, 35); ">Anna: there is a lot of money flowing around for events, how about using some of it for childcare? For example, ODGE, housemasters, DSL?</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Arial; color: rgb(35, 35, 35); ">N: we should be careful not to eliminate everything for social events. </div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Arial; color: rgb(35, 35, 35); ">Kim: it would be a statement of how serious we are. </div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Arial; color: rgb(35, 35, 35); ">Anna: It might be good to consider the Cooperative structure where parents help out and communally manage a daycare.</div><div><br></div></div><div>
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